Fault Light And Hard Gear Shift Also Very Little Movement In Speed
HELP!.. A few minutes ago I went to go for a drive the car and saw a Auto transmission light STAYING ON on the dash, I put it into 'D' and a massive jerk happened and I turned off engine and a few seconds later startedup again, and it disappeared, this reappeared after driving about 2 minutes but this time after turning off and starting again stayed there, with hardly any drive.
I returned home, looked in book which just says auto gearbox malfunction, fat lot of good that is, as it doesnt even show where the fluid level etc is to check.
This MAYBE linked to another problem, recently over the last few days the gear lever soleniod (which ALLEGEDLY HAS been changed with a complete gear lever unit on a soleniod fault at dealers back in Febuary YEH RIGHT, just like the rear window motor has been changed 3 times only for the fault to reappear and a whole history of other 'REPAIRS'...doesnt this come under FRAUD?...any solicitors out there? ) refuses to allow the gear lever to release out of park, this usually needs several attempts of the application of the brake pedal, and usually it agrees to 'click the soleniod' to allow the release, HOWEVER it totally refused last week and I had to 'manually release it'.....is it linked or is this a red herring?
Fault Light And Hard Gear Shift Also Very Little Movement In Speed
Hey Sarge
I've had the same problem with my 113 auto box. When putting the Vito into drive, reverse or 1,2,3 there was a huge jolt, but it only seemed to happen from cold start! The transmission light also stayed on, and there was no real drive, I found out this was because the gearbox automatically puts itself into 4th gear, which is 'safe mode'.
It took me a while to get it sorted because I drive my Vito from a wheelchair and therefore had an actuator on the gearbox selector, at first I thought it was this so I contacted the company who converted my Vito. They assured me it wasn't anything they had done so then it was time to contact Merc (oh no!)
To cut a long story short, Merc had it for 9 days, couldn't get the box to jolt so got the main technician from Mercedes-Benz out. He took it on a very long test drive and changed the gearbox software parametres. Not only has it cured the problem but it also goes like s**t off a shovel now! Woo hoo!
I have also experienced the problem with getting it out of park once, but it hasn't happened again for a while.
I've had the same problem with my 113 auto box. When putting the Vito into drive, reverse or 1,2,3 there was a huge jolt, but it only seemed to happen from cold start! The transmission light also stayed on, and there was no real drive, I found out this was because the gearbox automatically puts itself into 4th gear, which is 'safe mode'.
It took me a while to get it sorted because I drive my Vito from a wheelchair and therefore had an actuator on the gearbox selector, at first I thought it was this so I contacted the company who converted my Vito. They assured me it wasn't anything they had done so then it was time to contact Merc (oh no!)
To cut a long story short, Merc had it for 9 days, couldn't get the box to jolt so got the main technician from Mercedes-Benz out. He took it on a very long test drive and changed the gearbox software parametres. Not only has it cured the problem but it also goes like s**t off a shovel now! Woo hoo!
I have also experienced the problem with getting it out of park once, but it hasn't happened again for a while.
Hope you can get yours sorted.
Regards
Benz Bling
Hi Many Thanks for your replies,
The situation is currently that the fault has not reappeared, and it leaves me insecure about it. The car is driving perfectly at moment and hopefully that will be the last of that problem...well.. remains to be seen.
I STILL have the problem with the gear lever release out of park, which seems to be becoming more of a problem, as it doesnt 'CLICK' and refuses to come out of park.
What seriously angers me is that Mercedes replaced the 'COMPLETE' gear lever mechanism in Febuary this year, and when it returned, I had discovered:
A broken cup holder in the bottom 'cassette console' where a 'SCREW' was rammed in the back of the cup holder mechanism to keep it the closed position, ( I saw this a couple of months later as I never used it)
Scratched up dashboard, and no tv display on my head unit, as they 'YANKED' the cables out. (cost me £65 to get that sorted by a specialist installer)
I hardly drive it a lot, and MERCEDES is the WORST SUPPORT that can ever BE!
I experienced TWO dealers and BOTH are DONKEYS.
My problems have stopped at least 4 people buying Mercedes and will continue to do so as they are selling a product with known faults, have donkeys for dealers who raring to RIP people off to the maximum extent.
In fact I CHALLENGE Mercedes to contact me to resolve these on going issues and TEST their dealers in my presence, and I will PROVE that these donkeys are ruining Mercedes.
I mean Mercedes spends millions every year on product research, development, build their cars by highest engineering techniques, to exacting standards, (which I thought were the best in the world) then they hand their babies to complete TWATs (dealers) to not only damage the vehicle every time it goes in, add further faults that never existed in the first place, and hand the maximum pressure/hassle and hardship to their owners.
Well done Mercedes dealers ( that I have dealt with anyway ).
Sorry about the Moan but its my experience with them.
Will have to get it investigated, I cannot see anywhere to 'topup' the gearbox with oil, also does anyone know what the little blue cap thing is ontop of the gearbox? is it the topup point? . it just seems to keep twisting if you turn it.
Sarge,
Which gearbox does your van have (MAKE)? Some of the auto trannies do not have a dipstick to check/top-up oil level - to prevent jokers from putting in the wrong gtype of oil.etc (you'd be surprised!). Your problem appears more related to gear lever adjustment/electronics rather than the gearbox mechanics - do you normally park on a slope when the 'lock' gearknob comes into play? As for your comments about MERC, could not agree more!
Sarge,
Which gearbox does your van have (MAKE)? Some of the auto trannies do not have a dipstick to check/top-up oil level - to prevent jokers from putting in the wrong gtype of oil.etc (you'd be surprised!). Your problem appears more related to gear lever adjustment/electronics rather than the gearbox mechanics - do you normally park on a slope when the 'lock' gearknob comes into play? As for your comments about MERC, could not agree more!
Hi Mate,
The car is a V220 CDi, It has a gearbox with a plate stating 4HP-20 on it (please see pic attached). There is a little blue cap ( please see 2nd pic attached) but I dont know what it is. It just turns if I twist it, didnt want to put any force on it incase it breaks.
I have ALWAYS, without exception, stopped the car, put into neutral, applied the handbrake, released footbrake so that the car is now totally held stationary by the handbrake, THEN put it into park, this eliminates physical 'LOCK' of the park gearbox, as when I first got it I found it difficult to remove it out of park a few times so I use this method as it doesnt create a mechanical 'Bang' taking it out of park.
I would recommend everyone with an Auto Transmission to use this method, as it puts less stresses on the mechanisms all round.
I am the only driver of this car, and I really look after it and have never thrashed it or anything silly.
hi i have same fault with my v230 as you mercedes have had my vechile twice and still can not solve problem just reset light thats all the auto boxes i no are sealed so any fluid leak thats it for that box ? Have been told my box needs REPLACING at high cost??does your v-class stay in limp mode? does the light stay on or go out?
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Originally Posted by Sarge786
HELP!.. A few minutes ago I went to go for a drive the car and saw a Auto transmission light STAYING ON on the dash, I put it into 'D' and a massive jerk happened and I turned off engine and a few seconds later startedup again, and it disappeared, this reappeared after driving about 2 minutes but this time after turning off and starting again stayed there, with hardly any drive.
I returned home, looked in book which just says auto gearbox malfunction, fat lot of good that is, as it doesnt even show where the fluid level etc is to check.
This MAYBE linked to another problem, recently over the last few days the gear lever soleniod (which ALLEGEDLY HAS been changed with a complete gear lever unit on a soleniod fault at dealers back in Febuary YEH RIGHT, just like the rear window motor has been changed 3 times only for the fault to reappear and a whole history of other 'REPAIRS'...doesnt this come under FRAUD?...any solicitors out there? ) refuses to allow the gear lever to release out of park, this usually needs several attempts of the application of the brake pedal, and usually it agrees to 'click the soleniod' to allow the release, HOWEVER it totally refused last week and I had to 'manually release it'.....is it linked or is this a red herring?
My box is intermittent, It faulted LAST Friday, then ran ok for nearly a week, then fault reappeared yesterday. it seems to have a mind of its own, I had the problem ( dash light on and drives in 3rd or 4th gear ) yesterday morning, yet after turning the engine off and restarting it, it seems to be ok, well for a few mins in some case's and for longer in others. I am taking it to a Mechanic tomorrow, who will interrogate the cars computer to see what the fault codes say...
Problem I see is IF he IS able to get the codes out of it, then what in real terms of 'fixing' it can be done? I ask this as I have seen people displaying fault codes on the forum yet not able to say what it actually was/is, and if it was fixed, AND how.
May I ask YOU if you know what the Blue cap on top of the gearbox in my picture is?
I CANNOT comprehend Mercedes getting away with all these faults! SHOULD we all get together and make LOUD noises, to SHAME them into looking at ALL these problems???
Sarge, your box is the ZF tranny - although the mechanics are reliable, the electronics sometimes play up. This box comes sealed from factory with synthetic oil thus giving it a long service life = no oil level checks or topping up! You need to see an auto box SPECIALIST who will sort out any niggly problems - MERC solution is to replace box if can't understand problem and even then they get it wrong because they screw up the replacement fitting! Looks like when the MERCDADS replaced your gearknob, they messed up the fitting or left something loose which is now contributing to your present problems!
and hopefully that will be the last of that problem...well.. remains to be seen.
but its my experience with them.
hi i have same fault with my v230 as you mercedes have had my vechile twice and still can not solve problem just reset light thats all the auto boxes i no are sealed so any fluid leak thats it for that box ? Have been told my box needs REPLACING at high cost??does your v-class stay in limp mode? does the light stay on or go out?
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