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Old 03-21-2006, 11:56 AM   #1 (permalink)
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AUTOMATIC GEARBOX FLUID

Can anyone tell me hoe much automatic transmission fluid needed too refill a empty automatic gearbox (V230) too also include the torque converter.

Also is it necessary too fill it with mercedes genuine part, or will dextron 3 do the same job but cost a lot cheaper?

dextron 3 £15 = 5 litres
mercedes £48 = 5 litres

thanks for any replies

tommy
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Old 03-23-2006, 07:21 AM   #2 (permalink)
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RE: AUTOMATIC GEARBOX FLUID

Hold your horses! The V230 auto box is a sealed unit which is factory filled with SYNTHETIC GEARBOX OIL. It does not have a 'dip-stick' to check levels. The gearbox is a ZF unit which is also used in Renaults, Alfa, etc. However, the idea is to prevent people unnecessarily tinkering with the gearbox (using wrong oils, etc). It is not recommended to change oil unless you have had the box reconditioned, etc. However, if you have got to the stage of an oil change/refill, check with Merc for the original synthetic oil spec and use that...NOT ANY OTHER![:o)]
MERC DO NOT MAKE OIL, SO YOU CAN BUY SAME SPEC FROM ELSEWHERE MUCH CHEAPER, BUT MAKE SURE IT IS SAME SPEC!
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Old 03-30-2006, 12:01 AM   #3 (permalink)
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RE: AUTOMATIC GEARBOX FLUID

Auto box on mine [vito 114 2.3] is definitely not sealed..
you have 2 plugs,1 for draining and 1 for refill.
first you drain from the bottom and then you refill from the side till the fluid pops out and then you screw it back on.
Unfortunately the filter is inside and cannot be changed unless you take the gearbox apart...
My Vito manual states: auto box oil change at
90000 kms....[55000 miles]
So you have to change it.....
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Old 07-29-2006, 08:25 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Automatic Gearbox Fluid

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Hold your horses! The V230 auto box is a sealed unit which is factory filled with SYNTHETIC GEARBOX OIL. It does not have a 'dip-stick' to check levels. The gearbox is a ZF unit which is also used in Renaults, Alfa, etc. However, the idea is to prevent people unnecessarily tinkering with the gearbox (using wrong oils, etc). It is not recommended to change oil unless you have had the box reconditioned, etc. However, if you have got to the stage of an oil change/refill, check with Merc for the original synthetic oil spec and use that...NOT ANY OTHER![)]
MERC DO NOT MAKE OIL, SO YOU CAN BUY SAME SPEC FROM ELSEWHERE MUCH CHEAPER, BUT MAKE SURE IT IS SAME SPEC!
I am still strugleing to find information for substitute of Mercedes ATF for my V230. I bought 5 l bottle COMMA AQM (it says meets DEXRON IID) but don't know whether is the right one. Can you help?
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Old 08-04-2006, 04:00 PM   #5 (permalink)
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in tjhe end had full gearbox overhaul, not sure on oil they used

people on this forum have recomended merc oil ONLY
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Old 08-24-2006, 06:39 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Can anyone tell me hoe much automatic transmission fluid needed too refill a empty automatic gearbox (V230) too also include the torque converter.

Also is it necessary too fill it with mercedes genuine part, or will dextron 3 do the same job but cost a lot cheaper?

dextron 3 £15 = 5 litres
mercedes £48 = 5 litres

thanks for any replies

tommy

Tommy,

I am not certain about the 230 autogearbox, but my manual 113 uses ATF+4.
You can also use Mopar ATF+4
(Chrysler uses it in their Getrag gearbox.)

It's important to use the right fluid. I tried Dexron III for a short while but ended up refilling with ATF +4.
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Old 08-24-2006, 02:01 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Check your gearbox for model number. It should be ZF 4HP20 see attached link. Do not use any other spec oil or you will be sure to have problems.

http://www.autoshoppingcenter.com/tr...foilguide.html
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