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#1 (permalink) Old 06-05-2011, 09:30 AM
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MBTrac in the USA

I was riding around in a big John Deere yesterday with an erstwhile Unimog owner dragging a cultivator and we were talking about what it would take to do row cropping with a Unimog. He thinks that on a small scale, as in not more than a couple hundred acres, my 1500 would probably do it if the hydraulics would keep up. But what would probably be the best is a MB Trac. The Deere worked great but only goes a bit over 20mph and is a bit rough with no front suspension.

I haven't heard of anyone here in the US that has one. Probably some up in Canada. At least it should be easy to bring one in since it is clearly a tractor. As long as it's spotless.

Anybody here a MBTrac expert? Any in the USA?
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is their parts available? MBtrac went out of biz. previous thread if I recall right said something to the affect they became JCB fastrac?

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MB decided to stop production of the MB-Trac when in truth it was like a lot of thing merc do it was just ahead of its time, Merc sold the right to the MB-Trac to Werner Forst- und Industrietechnik (the Werner winch people) ware it became the WF-trac which is still made today though it has evolved a lot however the first WF-trac are unmistakably MB-Trac if you Google WF-trac images.

MBTrac in the USA-werner_wftrac_4x4_01.jpg
http://www.werner-trier.com/uploads/...rac_4x4_01.jpg

www.werner-trier.com - wf-trac

The JCB Fastrac is a later unconnected development by JCB UK

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What about the U500, but converted?



Or a U1700L



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Chris,

If you're serious about getting an MB Trac give Mike Rowe call, he's got a couple.

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everything is available when it comes to parts for mb-tracs. i order parts for them almost every second week. mercedes still manufactures brand new parts so go for it, provided you find a good example.

oh,in case you buy a big one(1300-1500-1600-1700-1800) don't forget to take off the restrictor of the 8th gear(you aren't allowed to select it due a small piece of metal fitted at the factory on the selector cover). when you will do, you'll see 40-45mph

if you want a little more, tamper with the governon on the injection pump, the planetary of the high-low range is also different to unimog one(ie slower)

things to check
-cabin mounts( for some reason they wear them a lot faster than unimogs)
-rear diff mounts(nobody ever bothers and the whole thing moves left-right)
-the air system(a little more complex than the unimog one due to a stupid valve that connects the brake action with the three point hitch positioning)
- cabin is not the most water-tight
- heater piping goes to the top of the cab and it tends to rust
-steering pump is also wearing out faster than unimogs but it is interchangeable with the mercedes trucks pump(if it has the 110 bar, go for the 130 one)
-the crawler gear lever works with a good old fashioned cable and it tends to lose precision when selecting
- it may look that a certain example has the rotating seat but don't be fooled. the mill was there on all of the big mb-tracs, the parts needed for actually rotating the seat were an extra, so check if the seat rotates because retrofitting the rotating feature is not worth the money.

these are off the top of my head

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If you're serious about getting an MB Trac give Mike Rowe call, he's got a couple.

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Some of the new Deeres are getting to be like the JCB's and Fendt's. Front suspension, air ride cabs, and higher road speeds.
Of course the $$$ for any of those type tractors are BIG.

Link to discussion we had about them a while back. http://www.benzworld.org/forums/unim...t-mb-trac.html

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I was riding around in a big John Deere yesterday with an erstwhile Unimog owner dragging a cultivator and we were talking about what it would take to do row cropping with a Unimog. He thinks that on a small scale, as in not more than a couple hundred acres, my 1500 would probably do it if the hydraulics would keep up. But what would probably be the best is a MB Trac. The Deere worked great but only goes a bit over 20mph and is a bit rough with no front suspension.

I haven't heard of anyone here in the US that has one. Probably some up in Canada. At least it should be easy to bring one in since it is clearly a tractor. As long as it's spotless.

Anybody here a MBTrac expert? Any in the USA?

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Thanks for the info.

I know that Werner now has them I didn't know JCB had anything to do with it.

I'm talking about an older unit that is reasonably priced and would probably fall in the MBTrac rather than the WFTrac category.

I'm talking about row cropping more than spraying and the solid rear axle of the MBTrac with a possible tighter turning radius along with the price is the draw.

Not surprised that Mike has one or some. He has one or some of about everything it seems.

As long as people keep ordering parts world wide Merc will likely keep making them. I have no idea on production numbers.

Guess there aren't any in the US... so far.

It's not something that I'm jumping right on and I just negotiated yesterday to turn a hay field into a bean field that someone else will plant but with the current price of corn and beans it might be worth while to consider doing it myself. My friend is doing it this year for the first time. So I'm just doing the research at this point to investigate feasibility.
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Thanks for the info.

I know that Werner now has them I didn't know JCB had anything to do with it.
the JCB Fastrac is unconnected

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