German top on Swiss Mog - Benzworld.org

flighht2k5 · 07-29-2008, 05:53 AM

I know it can be done but what is required for the swap? I like the idea of the cnvertible top. Thank you guys.

flighht2k5 · 07-29-2008, 10:10 PM

Gee 52 people have looked but not one has helped. Thanks guys I appreciate it.

hammogger · 07-29-2008, 11:59 PM

Hold on, you don't want advise from someone who does not know the answer, do you? I have not done this conversion, and apparently 51 other people have not either, or they would have jumped in with info!!

What I know you'd need: the German version top, German version door tops (the window/canvas part), the German version folding frame, a windshield with the two knobs on top for the folding frame to clamp to, and maybe even a different windshield to get the loops to mount the door tops to?? Maybe the Swiss doors would not hold the German style door tops?? The job might get more complicated.

Hope that gets you started.

Bob

gonzo_au · 07-30-2008, 12:50 AM

I like the Swiss top. I reckon they look a bit like the Aussie Akubra (a type of hat worn in the bush).

flighht2k5 · 07-30-2008, 06:55 AM

yea im sorry i just got off work and I was grouchy. i appreciate the help.

ontrack2 · 07-30-2008, 02:58 PM

I am looking at doing this myself. from what I have seen and heard there are a few issues.

The swiss top has a solid frame that mounts via two tubes at the rear (slips in) and two bolts at the top of the windshield. The German style top mounts completely different and also has different points to secure the canvas at the rear. I have looked at a german 416 top and can only guess it mounts similar to that.

The side windows are also different between the swiss and german trucks so the swiss ones wont fit properly. From memory the Swiss ones are bigger than the german ones and mount differently (unlike the posts that the swiss use)

What I was going to do (seems the easiest way) is modify the swiss soft-top frame to give it the german profile, Luckily i have the canvas off a german 416 to use as a guide. Them fab up any mounts on that to allow me to mount the canvas. However I am going to put a full cage in the cab so when this is made I will get it made the profile of the German roof so the canvas will fit straight over the top of that (hides most of the cage and will allow me to fold the windscreen down with the roof on). Getting the cage made is looking like a cab off process though

to get it done without bolting it directly to the chassis.

As for the side windows..well i dont use them that often (living in Sunny Australia

) so its not a priority at the moment. If someone has a german roofed 404 and could snap a few pics of how it and the windows attach it would be great.

Thats about all the help I can offer.

ontrack2 · 07-30-2008, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by gonzo_au

I like the Swiss top. I reckon they look a bit like the Aussie Akubra (a type of hat worn in the bush).

Always reminds me of the Bush Tucker Man

delawaredrew · 07-30-2008, 07:24 PM

So the swiss top is the one that rises up to a point at the rear and the desired top is the more shapely one that falls at the rear correct?

ontrack2 · 07-30-2008, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by delawaredrew

So the swiss top is the one that rises up to a point at the rear and the desired top is the more shapely one that falls at the rear correct?

Yup thats it.

Swiss Roof

German Roof

Notice the difference at the rear of the side windows. The swiss is pretty much straight up and down while the german is slanted.

Also AFAIK - The swiss trucks also (in general) did not have Drop side Trays, but trays like the first pic as they were supplied as a cab chassis and the Swiss made their own trays.