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WTB: Hydro-pneumatic Compensator Spring Kit for W111

I have a client with a failed hydro-pneumatic compensator above the rear diff on his early '60's 220seb cabriolet. I've been told the common cure for these old units is to replace them with a spring kit, like those found on lesser w110 models. I've been unable to locate one of these kits in new or NOS status, so we may need to settle for used. This is the part number for the replacement kit: 110 586 05 01

Please let me know if you're aware of a new kit, or if you might be able to supply a used kit in very good condition.

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The pic below is the same spring on a '62 190D in my shop. Looks like a real mother bear to replace.

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I have a client with a failed hydro-pneumatic compensator above the rear diff on his early '60's 220seb cabriolet. I've been told the common cure for these old units is to replace them with a spring kit, like those found on lesser w110 models.
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The pic below is the same spring on a '62 190D in my shop. Looks like a real mother bear to replace.
"lesser cars"...???? Excuse me? Whatever. It's on every swing axle Mercedes from the period unless it has air suspension. W108, W113, etc. It's not difficult to replace, just follow the instructions in the BBB. I actually am probably about to part out a 1960 W111 220Sb and it would have all the parts you want. I hadn't planned on removing that stuff but could be bribed into it...

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It was a reference to the 110 part number, which I believe in MB marketing parlance was a down-market offering at the time. The 190D in my shop would be what we refer to over in BW124, as a "stripper"...it is equipped with zero options. What's the BBB?
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It was a reference to the 110 part number, which I believe in MB marketing parlance was a down-market offering at the time. The 190D in my shop would be what we refer to over in BW124, as a "stripper"...it is equipped with zero options. What's the BBB?
I think MB convention is that a new part gets the part number prefix of whatever series it is first used on, so a 110 part number originates on a 110 car but might also be used on a 111, 113, 108, etc.

The BBB is the Big Blue Book. It's the Mercedes shop manual that tells us how to do things if we don't know. Depending on the print date, the cover could look slightly different. Very early versions are in binders. For those of us with 108, 113 cars we need both the BBB that starts for passenger cars in 1959 and the next version for passenger cars starting in 1968.

I have all the parts you need, except you will want to order the rubber pads that are in your photograph new. Those are available. Email me if you want pay me to extract parts from my parts car... The rear suspension sits just fine so the compensating spring is fine.

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There's a guy on ebay that is selling "reconditioned" compensating springs but not the related hardware. Kind of makes me laugh. In this case, I have to believe that "reconditioned" means "painted". There is nothing to recondition on a spring...

You can take a look at ebay listing 161206621059 if you like. I'll want more money than that to pull the spring and related brackets and stuff from my car... I would be willing to bet that the seller on ebay has the other parts on a parts car so you may want to go down that route instead of me. Or perhaps someone on the forum has the parts sitting on a shelf, but I kind of doubt it...

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