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post #11 of 29 (permalink) Old 04-15-2013, 07:09 AM
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No, I ain't even considering no $6k....... My asking price is a bargain for this unique example.
And it ain't no New Jersey car.....
She is an absolute knock-out!
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I am going to throw my 2 cents in. Not a buyer but the w126's are my favorite chassis and I am a big Wilt fan. I like the look of the car, the price is really not bad if you can provide the following:

1. Records-the more the better
2. At the current mileage, the timing chain needs to be addressed at the least. I would also check to see if it is time to do the top end. Some compression numbers would be good.
3. Paperwork showing it was Wilt's car. I do not know if him owning the car helps or not. It has been a few years since he was in the news. Hard to believe he has been gone so long already.

To be honest, I am glad you are on the other coast. I would be tempted if I were nearby. It is a very nice w126.

Best of luck with your sale.

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post #12 of 29 (permalink) Old 04-15-2013, 07:14 AM Thread Starter
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She is a stunner & I agree that the 18" wheels & 225/255-40 tires belong somewhere else. My Master Plan (don't we all have those...) was to find the right 16's or so with decent sidewall tires and then adjust the suspension slightly to compliment...
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Hi Mike:
Appreciate your input.
I bought it from a real high roller in San Diego's Rancho Santa Fe if ya know the neighborhood. He is a friend of Wilt's, but it's just a story, I don't have any documentation.
Same for the car, I've heard this top-end thing & she's got the double chain, so maybe, maybe not. She's at 112k miles and runs real sweet.
For this kind of money, ya just don't get too worked up over it all. Drive it for however long ya care to, have a double-ton of fun with her, get asked about her from stunned folks EVERY time ya take her out, then sell her for about every nickel ya have in her!
I've never seen another like her in person.
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Wow. Take a chill pill

Yes I do routinely ask people if they'll take an amount im willing to pay , even if its less than their asking price . Because if they are firm in the price , I'm not going to waste their time or my time flying to see it in person.

But if they are willing to come down to my price , which is the same price as the east coast car pictured , that's when I'll spend hundreds to fly out (or just send a transporter and buy it sight unseen ).

Hopefully that satisfied your need for me to explain my offer
Your response is just plain asinine. Of course we all do the same thing when we are buying a car. Its the etiquette challenged that think they can just throw out a number via text or over the internet without any prior inquiries and think its perfectly acceptable and a successful negotiation tactic.

Most people would want to know alot more about a vehicle before spitting out an offer. Has this car had the timing chain job done. Probably not? OK. Do you have complete service records? No, fine. How long have you had the car and what have you done to it? Not long and not much? OK. Before I would even think of making an offer in this scenario is seeing the car in person or paying for a PPI. Before I invest in that I might ask if the price is flexible based on the results of that inspection. Once I have a complete picture of the car based on in person or the PPI results and I can make an offer.

There are plenty of times where I make an offer in the first interaction almost always over the phone, but its after I've had a decent length conversation to feel out the seller and the car.

I've bought and sold 50+ Mercedes, many of which site unseen on both ends. When someone on a forum or off craigslist pulls what you do, I never take them seriously, always respond the price is firm. I give alot of consideration to my pricing, and people think a single text, email, whatever, asking. "will I take xxx. CASH" is going to pull any weight. It insults my intelligence.

Nobody in their right mind is going to respond well to a stranger who has done nothing but throw out a number way under their asking price just out of the blue.

Your buying tactic is idiotic. If he was originally asking $6000 he would of had a dozen inquiries within 24 hours. Posting it on a forum for all to see? Hell I would outbid you right now at $6500 if the car checks out. My cash is just as good as yours.

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Your response is just plain asinine. Of course we all do the same thing when we are buying a car. Its the etiquette challenged that think they can just throw out a number via text or over the internet without any prior inquiries and think its perfectly acceptable and a successful negotiation tactic.

Most people would want to know alot more about a vehicle before spitting out an offer. Has this car had the timing chain job done. Probably not? OK. Do you have complete service records? No, fine. How long have you had the car and what have you done to it? Not long and not much? OK. Before I would even think of making an offer in this scenario is seeing the car in person or paying for a PPI. Before I invest in that I might ask if the price is flexible based on the results of that inspection. Once I have a complete picture of the car based on in person or the PPI results and I can make an offer.

There are plenty of times where I make an offer in the first interaction almost always over the phone, but its after I've had a decent length conversation to feel out the seller and the car.

I've bought and sold 50+ Mercedes, many of which site unseen on both ends. When someone on a forum or off craigslist pulls what you do, I never take them seriously, always respond the price is firm. I give alot of consideration to my pricing, and people think a single text, email, whatever, asking. "will I take xxx. CASH" is going to pull any weight. It insults my intelligence.

Nobody in their right mind is going to respond well to a stranger who has done nothing but throw out a number way under their asking price just out of the blue.

Your buying tactic is idiotic. If he was originally asking $6000 he would of had a dozen inquiries within 24 hours. Posting it on a forum for all to see? Hell I would outbid you right now at $6500 if the car checks out. My cash is just as good as yours.
Perhaps he's testing the resolve and honesty of the seller? For all we know this could be an elaborate, well-planned scam. If he'd publicly jumped on the $6k offer, that would already be a fishy sign.

So, a person's actions may not always be just what you see, perhaps there's more to it.

Clearly no one who's posted in this thread is as well versed in buying/selling as you are if everyone is supposed to have the same buying/selling etiquette as you've mentioned.

I wish people had the same driving etiquette as I do!

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Your response is just plain asinine. Of course we all do the same thing when we are buying a car. Its the etiquette challenged that think they can just throw out a number via text or over the internet without any prior inquiries and think its perfectly acceptable and a successful negotiation tactic.

Most people would want to know alot more about a vehicle before spitting out an offer. Has this car had the timing chain job done. Probably not? OK. Do you have complete service records? No, fine. How long have you had the car and what have you done to it? Not long and not much? OK. Before I would even think of making an offer in this scenario is seeing the car in person or paying for a PPI. Before I invest in that I might ask if the price is flexible based on the results of that inspection. Once I have a complete picture of the car based on in person or the PPI results and I can make an offer.

There are plenty of times where I make an offer in the first interaction almost always over the phone, but its after I've had a decent length conversation to feel out the seller and the car.

I've bought and sold 50+ Mercedes, many of which site unseen on both ends. When someone on a forum or off craigslist pulls what you do, I never take them seriously, always respond the price is firm. I give alot of consideration to my pricing, and people think a single text, email, whatever, asking. "will I take xxx. CASH" is going to pull any weight. It insults my intelligence.

Nobody in their right mind is going to respond well to a stranger who has done nothing but throw out a number way under their asking price just out of the blue.

Your buying tactic is idiotic. If he was originally asking $6000 he would of had a dozen inquiries within 24 hours. Posting it on a forum for all to see? Hell I would outbid you right now at $6500 if the car checks out. My cash is just as good as yours.

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Funny thread!

Well... At least OP doesn't have to bump his thread to keep it on top.

Oh... IMO, with the exception of the wheels, I think the car looks pretty good. My guess is that the price will be somewhere between OP's asking price and the price tusabes offered.

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Get over yourself dude . You think i dont buy and sell too ? Why do you feel the need to criticize others? You aren't the definitive expert and I don't need your tips . my strategy works , thats why i use it. last car i got , the seller was asking $10k and i got it for $4900.

We all have different styles of making offers on cars. I don't like to waste people's time and I think sellers get annoyed with people like you asking a ton of questions then using that info to lowball them or walking away. So my style is to put the price in willing to move on the deal upfront , and if the seller is motivated then we can hash out the deal . I'm pricing it to take a risk - i assume that nothing has been maintained bc I trust no seller , there is no use for me to ask about maintenance history . I could care less what maintenance history it has , not going to affect my offer. Your imaginary offer of $6500 "assuming the car checks out and you like the answers to your detailed questions " is an illusory offer. I buy as is , sight unseen , no ppi , no hassles to the seller, which most sellers find much more attractive. theyd rather take a little less with no hassles , than try to get more to please the requirements of someone like you.

I also could care less if you feel insulted , since #1 you're not selling the car , and #2 your opinion means nothing to me . In fact , im glad you got all frustrated and insulted because now all the forum member see your true character And how you think you are better than everyone else. Either give the guy $6500 or shut up

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Yeah I'm sure that's exactly how it happened. Asking $10,000. That $10,000 happens to be a reasonable asking price. You offer $4900 CASH, nothing else in your message. Seller immediately says yes and is happy to take your money. You ask no other pertinent questions and go off completely what's in the basic ad description. Turns out to be a nice car.

Seems really lucky to me. I would think less than 1% of the offers you send out in this fashion comes back with a yes, is not a scam, and the car arrives not being a complete basket case, but may be I'm missing something. This happens to you all the time? You never piss anyone off when you offer 1/3 to 1/2 off their asking price without even a hello?

You were making alot of assumptions about me. I have never had a seller who wanted to honestly represent their car get irritated when I ask them questions. That's ridiculous. I cannot have a very high opinion of myself as I chose to become a used car dealer. The amount of abuse I take on a daily basis keeps me pretty grounded. You just struck a nerve as I have a few people on the lot a week offer a fraction of my asking price CAAASSSHHH, and I can't get my broom fast enough.

I'll let you have the last word. This is my last post addressing you. Sorry for the trouble.

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