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FS (fast hopefully): 1973 450sl on eBay

I was planning on holding onto this car until the spring for warmer weather and the maximum price for the car. Well, I bought another car before selling this one or asking the wife. So I need to make "room" quickly. So off to ebay it goes. $200 starting bid, but I will end the auction if I had a buyer at $8000. Big difference I know.

In any case, post a bid! You know it is worth more than $200! :-)

Pictures and videos linked in the eBay ad (text pasted below since I can't seem to link to an auction before it goes live).

Ebay Item # 251228138560

Pictures: Snapfish:Logged Out:Album:Shared

Videos: 1973 450sl for Sale - YouTube


EBAY DESCRIPTION:


I am a private owner, but have sold at least four cars on ebay before, with 100% positive feedback.

I am willing to assist in shipping this car at the buyers cost. I can also meet a buyer at an Amtrak station (so I can get home) after receiving a deposit.

See ~150 pictures at: 450sl Pictures << Click link

Also see several videos starting with a cold startup on Feb 12, 2013: Videos starting with cold startup Feb 12, 2013 << Click link

Please note: The pictures above show many bolt-on modifications from the stock 1973 450sl appearance. Those are not included with the sale, but can be purchased separately if desired. See the list and prices for those items at the bottom of this description.


What are the benefits of this specific 1973 450sl ?

- Copious maintenance done in the last 600-2500 miles:

o New timing chain, timing chain tensioner, intake manifold gaskets, fuel hoses, injector seals, throttle linkage bushings including transmission control lever, new shifter bushing, new tie rods, steering dampener, shocks, front subframe bushings, upper and lower control arm bushings, motor mounts, coolant, oil, spark plugs, wires, distributor cap & rotor, windshield top lock bushings, waterproofed soft top, new AC compressor clutch, wiper motor (replaced with used), new MB engine compartment battery tray, oiled blower motor, acid & POR-15 treated any signs of rust including: Spare tire well & trunk battery/tool tray (which were surface rust only).

- Low mileage: 70,600 miles

- Near perfect red interior, including a crack-free dash.

- Beautiful glossy reflective black paint.

- No rust (with the exception of bubbles starting under the paint on the bottom edge of the trunk which are pictured).


How is the 1973 year different from other r107 cars (1972-1989)?

- 1973 is the last year of the small bumper cars in the U.S.

- 1973 is the last year of the metal-backed timing chain guides. Plastic timing chain guides are known to cause catastrophic failure in the Mercedes V8 motors. This engine does not have that issue.

- 1973 is the last year of the full chrome grill star. Later years got a plastic grill star with a thin metal overlay. In general, these cars received less and less chrome, and more and more plastic over the model’s 18-year-run.

- 1973 has no catalytic converter

- 1972-1973, the first years for the r107, are nearly identical, and the benefits of the early 1972 model (metal blower cover, and chrome shifter plate have been added to this 1973, and the original plastic parts are also included).

- 1973 (along with all other early 1970’s years) has the desired manual climate controls.

- 1972-1975 used the Bosch D-Jetronic “D-Jet” fuel injection system, which is a fun system to learn, and there is a ton of information online from Mercedes and Porche forums from these classic cars. The system is very easy to learn, providing the classic car owner with a solid understanding of how these classic cars work.



- Why does the listing show a "Reconstructed" title?

This car came with no history other than the previous owners never putting any significant mileage on the car and showing a lien of over $15,000 for the car in Pennsylvania where the car was originally titled in 1972. The previous owners said the car had the “R” branded on the title for an unknown reason, but the radiator support has been replaced, indicating that the car was once in an accident. The car has been issue free since my ownership, and the Delaware title is “reconstructed” based on the “R” on the Pennsylvania title. This does decrease the long term value of the car, but not the enjoyment of the car.



Why am I selling?

We had a third baby and can no longer enjoy this car as a family. I have found a convertible that will seat the whole family, but it doesn't look as nice as this one. :-(


Optional Extras:

$3340 in total.

The prices below are what these items are worth to me. The individual prices are not negotiable, but if all are purchased together with the car, I will entertain offers. I am an avid MB 107 enthusiast, and believe I will have no problem selling the parts/tools to fellow r107 owners at the below at these prices. (I have had offers for most of the items below, but have maintained that I want to save them as options for the person who purchases this car. They will NOT be included with the sale without additional cost to the buyer.)
Seating & Usability - Total: $650

- Folding aftermarket burgundy seat and seat belts (parcel shelf included regardless): $350

- OEM Windscreen with adapter blocks for the early top boot: $200

- Hard Top Hoist: $100


Appearance & Handling – Total $2500:

- Six extra wheels (beyond the included five 14” steel wheels & hubcaps): $2000

o 5 BBS RS009 8x16 et11 w 2” lips

o 4 225/50/16 Summer Tires from 2011

o 1 bundt spare w tire(eliminating need to carry extra lugs for steel spare):

- Euro Headlights (Perfect US headlights with 2 sets of headlight “doors”, both clear and black included with the car regardless): $300

- Gen2 / 560sl / 1986+ front spoiler: $125

- Chrome Shifter Plate: $50

- Metal Blower Cover: $25



All the original parts will be installed for the buyer if the buyer is not interested in these additional items.

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Take two: http://bit.ly/10GlmAr

Ebay item # 251275647746

Fixed a few things that I should have fixed before the first listing.

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For the record, I ended the auction before the auction close because I realized I should fix a few things (not because I had a buyer that did not follow through). That is why it took me so long to relist.

Some pictures of the items corrected:

Correct fog lights. I think the eyebrows (which were not on the old fog lights) should be black, but they are currently painted silver.
FS (fast hopefully): 1973 450sl on eBay-imageuploadedbyautoguide1368619351.322949.jpg


Only shot I have of interior with black Floormats right now. I will post better pics later that show the interior after a heavy detailing and cleaning.
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Reinstalled the correct original shifter plate and a new shifter bushing/boot.
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Installed the distributor cover and re-routed the spark plug wires.
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Positively identified the source of the rust in the trunk lid that caused the rust under the paint on the trunk lid (which has not changed in the 3 years I've owned the car). Purchased new rubber washers and clips from MB, but also added black silicone when installing to assure there is a positive seal. You can see in the picture how the two side pins that had no rubber washers had rust all around them.
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There are many other non-cosmetic things I fixed, like replacing one horn, and adjusting the points and timing (as the points wear on a d-jet and the ignition timing gets later and later as the points wear), and subsequently had the car emissions tested at 73 PPM HC and 1.06% CO (pretty good for a non-cat car in my experience).

Anyway, I'm finally ready to let it go knowing I am not passing on a "project" car. Come and take it for a drive!




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^^^ not perfect

Here is an example of a tough-to-clean area and shows how much filth is really on a clean-looking 40-year-old car. I cleaned all the Naugahyde with a toothbrush to get the filth out of those grooves. Yes, a toothbrush. Well, I actually hard to bend a kitchen skewer and wad up a rag on it to complete the cleaning in this area. Not easy.
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Door sills were a 30-second job, but it is always good to show door sills in a FS album, right?
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The driver door panel vinyl has come unstapled at the bottom. These staples should be on the inside of the door card (as I just discovered when I pulled the door card on the passenger side for the first time because the rear of that passenger handle was not properly attached to the door frame).
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^^^ now that I have removed a door card for the first time, perhaps I will consider fixing this before the auction end. It shouldn't be too large of a job, but one for a warm day so the vinyl is easy to stretch. It will be a great opportunity to really clean up the bright work like I did on the passenger side.

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WANT. Wish I could afford to have an R107. If I were seriously looking to buy one, this is the one I'd buy.
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Some discoloration on b-pillar molding:
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Driver b-pillar:
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Driver door molding is shot, but hasn't been the kind of issue I'm attacking. This car is garage kept, and when it's gotten hit with rain, the doors aren't an issue.
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And here's the reason I'm selling. #3 won't fit in the back of this car. So I upgraded to an SLC convertible (which isn't as nice as this 450sl... yet.)
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Console cracks:
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... There are a few more cracks to show. So more posts coming.


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Kudos to you for full disclosure with pictures. GLWS. By the way, I have the same color and it is a stunning combination in person and not all that common.
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WANT. Wish I could afford to have an R107. If I were seriously looking to buy one, this is the one I'd buy.
Thanks for the kind words. As clean as I've got it, man, it is tempting to buy one of those car bubbles and drop it in there until the kids are ready to drive. Hmm...

More crack pics. This pic didn't turn out, but the crack is only on the driver side of this bump on the console.
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The crack at the back. I guess these happened (or got to this level) from the kids climbing all over the console.
As I mentioned in the ebay listing. I can get my hands on a red console, but don't want to waste a favor of a friend.
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Note: the carpet on the console doesn't look original, well, maybe it is. I don't know, but it isn't glued down.

Also, see in this picture from when it was getting darker, the console is not quite as red as the rest of the interior, more faded. When I was cleaning it the rag was coming up red/orange, while a the cleaning on the rest of the Naugahyde only pulled up dirt, no red. Clearly different materials. Some of my later consoles are glossy like the Naugahyde. This one is not glossy. Its life could be extended with some plastic crack filler and a paint job.
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Here is a very-hard-to-see area of the console which is in very poor shape. This is the damage that made me realize this console should just be replaced:
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I glued the vinyl on the boot lid back down as it was peeling up on most areas of the inside of the boot lid. Fortunately it was never a problem/issue for me, but I felt like it would be a "project" for a buyer and it just took me about an hour when I finally got to it. (I previously did a similar glue-project on the map pockets and it seems to be holding up well.).
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^^^ I ran out of binder clips!






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Kudos to you for full disclosure with pictures. GLWS. By the way, I have the same color and it is a stunning combination in person and not all that common.
Thanks DickZ. I'm not going anywhere, and I've got a family. Teaching kids the right way is important. These are things that someone can see for themselves in person, but on the internet, this stuff needs to be pointed out for an honest sale. I want the buyer to be happy.


Floormats:

Apparently the maroon/burgundy floormats went NLA in just the last few months. I'm starting to be happy about that because the black mats in a black car are growing on me. (Hey, you know what, I've for some black cloth recaros too. Hmm... Something to add to my options list.)
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So these were very important to cover up the driver carpet (passenger carpet perfect).

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^^^ that plastic section of the driver carpet was really Hurting. So the smaller rubber may was the cover up for almost the whole time I've owned the car. I glued it to the carpet plastic section to keep it in the right place. Now it all should all at least not get any worse while it is protected by the black floormat.

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So that's it for the day. It is all very clean and nothing more will be touched on the interior, except may some Armor All protectant or something like that.

Did everyone notice the 1972 dash is still crack free? What's up with that? My 1978 and 1981 are all cracked up. Damn I will miss this car. It is the nicest of the bunch. Damn third kid! just kidding.






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