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The standard 1970s/1980s Mercedes full wheel cover is available (new) from Mercedes for 15" wheels.



I have to wonder which gives the greater improvement in handling: switching from 14" to 15" wheels, or switching from 23 pound steel 14" wheels to 11 pound alloy 14" wheels and keeping the OEM MB full wheel cover...
Thanks for the info on the 15" wheel covers. Are the 15" wheels also available?

I don't know what is heavier, bigger wheels with smaller tires, or smaller wheels with bigger tires. The higher sidewall definitely makes the ride softer and also makes me feel a lot less confident when cornering.
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Thanks for the info on the 15" wheel covers. Are the 15" wheels also available?

I don't know what is heavier, bigger wheels with smaller tires, or smaller wheels with bigger tires. The higher sidewall definitely makes the ride softer and also makes me feel a lot less confident when cornering.
I don't know if the 15" wheels are available from MB - I've never heard one way or another on that. Having said that, I think that they would not be _that_ difficult to obtain used. Particularly outside the United States.

I'm fairly sure that the 14" alloy/rubber combination is going to have significantly less weight than the 15" steel/rubber combination. And while I would agree with you regarding more confidence on cornering, I would qualify that by saying on good smooth surfaces. On any sort of irregular surface, I think that the 10+ pound reduction in unsprung weight is going to outweigh the benefit of the stiffer tire.

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14, 15 and 16 steelies are readily available new.

here: Wheels and Caps - Chrome/Alloy/Steel OEM Wheels, OEM/Replacement Hubcaps & more!
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The 15" steelies are for the 1971 6.3. We have a set of 15" Astral Silver hubcaps, and we'd like to get them onto 15" wheels. The w126 15" steel wheel will work perfectly.

We currently have 14" hubcaps on the car now:


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The site 48hp posted oesn't seem to offer any 15" for the w126, just 14". The 15" and 16" that appear seem to be for the 124 and other high offset cars.

Do low offset 15" exist?

Or might you be OK running a high offset with spacers?
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14, 15 and 16 steelies are readily available new.

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Not exactly. The link you are showing is for a 190E and the offset will be different than for a 126 or 123 I think. If you look at steel wheels for a 123, you get exactly one steel wheel, 14", no picture. If you look at alloy wheels for 123, you get exactly one, Bundt style, silver finish only.

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Do low offset 15" exist?
Yes, but not standard on very many cars. Special purpose cars would have had them (chassis to become ambulance), cars with option for increased ground clearance, etc. Cars that didn't come to the united states typically. I think that the 600 used steel 15" wheels, and also I think it was an option for the 6.3 cars. Similarly, 15" bundts were available as an option starting on W108 cars I think...

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OK, I did a little EPC research and here's what I can provide:

A123 400 1002 - 5 1/2 J x 15 H2 - listed as optional equipment on 114, 115, and 123 body cars.

A100 400 0502 - 6 1/2 K x 15 H2 - standard on Mercedes 600

A115 401 0424 - 15" hubcap used on both of the above.

For 116 body cars I don't find a steel 15" wheel.
For 126 body cars I find:

A126 400 2802 and
A126 400 3902 both 7J x 15H2
and both use _124_ hubcaps, not the full wheel cover with the 115 part number. It might fit, it might not. Also, offset might be different on 126 cars so don't assume that 15" 126 wheels are going to fit. AND it is unlikely that you are going to find them in the US anyway since it would be a non-US configuration.

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Check with the dealer. Pretty sure they are still avail new.
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A1234001002 MSRP $92, Online $72 but that doesn't mean it exists
A1004000502 MSRP $434, Online $339 but that doesn't mean it exists
A1154010424 MSRP $238, Online $186 but that doesn't mean it exists

Dealer will not be 100% certain, contact the classic center.

Or buy 14" aluminum wheels that take full wheel covers from me !!!! :-)

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