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Wire Needed...

Hello:

In an effort to support the mental health business and prove the Doctors right I am looking for some Mercedes wire.
Ordinary American wire just wont do....

Background:
Mercedes used, for the most part, 3 different sizes of wire; 0,75 - 2,5 and 4,0mm2. Roughly 18G, 14G and 10G (AWG).
It's easy to tell the difference when comparing them side by side.
These colors were used on the 201, 124, 129 and 140 series that I know of, probably more but I don't have the diagrams handy.
If you are parting out a 85 - 98 car let me know and I will tell you where they are located.

So......
If any has some extra wire or even a harness with the colors I would be interested in buying it.

I need the 2.5mm2 size in:
Red/Black/White
and
Red/Yellow/White
and
Red/White/Black or (Red/Black/AnyColor)
What that means, to normal people (on this list...!!!), is Red wire with a Black Stripe and White Rings.

I can also use, in almost any size; 0,75 - 1,0 or 1.5mm2 the following colors:
Brown/Green
and
Brown/Green/White or (Brown/Green/Any Color)
and
Green/Brown
and
Green/Brown/White or (Brown/Green/Any Color)
AND....
From a 500E - E500 (124.036):
The Red 10mm2 wire from the battery to the CAN, it's made by Gebauer und Griller and is labeled "Polyflex."

Maybe.... MAYBE a early, pre 93, 400E might have the same. It SEEMS like they would - but the 93s I have checked have a different wire and routing, made by AEG Kabel and uses less, and thicker, strands. It just wont do for my application.

It's truly best not to ask why I am going through all this time, effort and money to get something that is buried in the car, well hidden, covered in tubing, and that no one will ever see when every day wire will do just as good of a job. I cant explain it myself to be honest. It is what it is.

A BIG Thank You for any help with this project.

Kind Regards from the Funny Farm,

Ron
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Can you tell me where these wires run to and from. What lengths do you need them in? I'm heading out to a salvage yard this Saturday and might just cut out some for you if they are easily accessible.

There is even a wrecked 500E which might just have what you need.

I have dumped 3 cars' wiring harnesses to a metal recycler recently - otherwise I'd dig something out.

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Can you tell me where these wires run to and from. What lengths do you need them in? I'm heading out to a salvage yard this Saturday and might just cut out some for you if they are easily accessible.
Hello:

Thanks for any help in this project.

Most of the "big" red wires (2.5mm2) (Red/Black/White, Red/Yellow/xxxxx, etc.) run from the fuse box.

If the car has heated seats look at power to the relay unit, it will have Red/White, Red/Black and Red/Yellow.
I can use, in 3ft lenghts or so minimum, ANY Red/Yellow, Red/Black AND any Red Tricolor (Red/Black/White, etc.) that is 2.5mm2

On the 500E.....

At the battery in the trunk where the battery cable is... along the battery cable runs a red 10mm2 wire to the computer module on the right side of the engine compartment. It is in some black tubing.

1) There is a clip, you need to remove the grey panel covering the gas tank - it pulls out. Remove the clip.

2) You MAY have to remove the rear seat. The cushion pulls out after you push down the two red tabs. the back part is held on by 3 bolts, one on each side and one in the center.

3) Pull the cable into the back seat. In the plastic tubing there MAY be a wire for the fuel pump, pull that out.

4) Under the dash there MAY be another clip. Around that clip cut the wire. If you have more time you can take the CAN module out, etc. It's a PITA.

5) Once the wire is cut you will be able to pull it out from the back seat.
You MAY have to cut some clips or plastic ties so bring a sizzors or wire cutters.

This should take around 10-15 minutes total.

This will get you around 10 feet of wire, which is about what I need.

Of course I expect to pay you for your time in addition to the wire.

Kind Regards,

Ron

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I have remains of a wiring harness from a 1998 E320 wagon which might help. Make me a reasonable offer and pay shiping and its yours.
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Hello:

In an effort to support the mental health business and prove the Doctors right I am looking for some Mercedes wire.
Ordinary American wire just wont do....

Background:
Mercedes used, for the most part, 3 different sizes of wire; 0,75 - 2,5 and 4,0mm2. Roughly 18G, 14G and 10G (AWG).
It's easy to tell the difference when comparing them side by side.
These colors were used on the 201, 124, 129 and 140 series that I know of, probably more but I don't have the diagrams handy.
If you are parting out a 85 - 98 car let me know and I will tell you where they are located.

So......
If any has some extra wire or even a harness with the colors I would be interested in buying it.

I need the 2.5mm2 size in:
Red/Black/White
and
Red/Yellow/White
and
Red/White/Black or (Red/Black/AnyColor)
What that means, to normal people (on this list...!!!), is Red wire with a Black Stripe and White Rings.

I can also use, in almost any size; 0,75 - 1,0 or 1.5mm2 the following colors:
Brown/Green
and
Brown/Green/White or (Brown/Green/Any Color)
and
Green/Brown
and
Green/Brown/White or (Brown/Green/Any Color)
AND....
From a 500E - E500 (124.036):
The Red 10mm2 wire from the battery to the CAN, it's made by Gebauer und Griller and is labeled "Polyflex."

Maybe.... MAYBE a early, pre 93, 400E might have the same. It SEEMS like they would - but the 93s I have checked have a different wire and routing, made by AEG Kabel and uses less, and thicker, strands. It just wont do for my application.

It's truly best not to ask why I am going through all this time, effort and money to get something that is buried in the car, well hidden, covered in tubing, and that no one will ever see when every day wire will do just as good of a job. I cant explain it myself to be honest. It is what it is.

A BIG Thank You for any help with this project.

Kind Regards from the Funny Farm,

Ron
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I'll be happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats!

(Don't ask, I'm old)
Those "nice young men in their clean white coats" are the current crop of Mercedes techs...

Sad thing is... I remember that song.

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I still kinda want to know if these are the right wires. Cause I pulled them for you.

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