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Well, since he wants higher than the average market value for his r107, let's not beat around the bush and start tearing his car apart. Am I right?

- wrong wheels for a 72 (or any r107 really)
- antenna in wrong location for a 72
- wrong front bumper for an early US model (so either it's a euro or it's been in an accident)

Don't get me wrong. It looks like a nice car, but if we are left to make assumptions, we've only got a single picture to go by, and no other information about the car.

Just bustin' your chops gumpy.

EDIT: P.S. Original stainless wiper blade covers are replaced with black. Any maybe that's not the antenna in the back, but something in the background of the picture. And it looks like it has more modern visors on it with a mirror on the driver side visor. (My 73's got nothin')
The antenna-looking thing is a telepathic transmitter that is designed to fill in the blanks for us on price, etc. It is also supposed to replace our knowledge of what a fully "restored", condition grade "1" (on a scale of 1-6) 1972 350SL is supposed to look like... with this vehicle. Apparently, said unit is currently non-operational.


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Originally Posted by Fonzi View Post
Well, since he wants higher than the average market value for his r107, let's not beat around the bush and start tearing his car apart. Am I right?

- wrong wheels for a 72 (or any r107 really)
- antenna in wrong location for a 72
- wrong front bumper for an early US model (so either it's a euro or it's been in an accident)

Don't get me wrong. It looks like a nice car, but if we are left to make assumptions, we've only got a single picture to go by, and no other information about the car.

Just bustin' your chops gumpy.

EDIT: P.S. Original stainless wiper blade covers are replaced with black. Any maybe that's not the antenna in the back, but something in the background of the picture. And it looks like it has more modern visors on it with a mirror on the driver side visor. (My 73's got nothin')
Nice to see that there are some members of this forumn that know about early R107's, but I guess not about fishin'. I do not know where Mr. Pillay lives, but I am sure it is not under a bridge. There was no personal attack, only that I thought his comments were out of line for an open forumn and that I would not get into some form of contest over the proper ettequite for posting an item that I wished to sell. Issue is closed.

1. The original light alloy wheels (but not the covers) are available.
2 The original overriders are available although one needs some work and rechroming
3. The original brushed chromes wipers are avaialble - the ones that are on the car do a much better job.
4. The mirrors are from a later model (for safety reasons), but the original are avaialble
5. The visors are from a later model (yes, the lighted mirrors work!), but there are the original pieces of cardboard out on the Iinternet if someone wanted to enter a Concours de Elegance.
6. The car came with the antenna in that position - it could have been a dealer install.
7. Nothing to hide from someone who really has an interest in the car -Spent over $18k just in material on the rebuild. This is not the "average" R-107 which goes in the $5 - 8K range and IMHO are junk - enen though they might sort of run at that price and the uphoistery and top not have too many rips or holes. Mine is priced accordingly and I will not start dealing on this forum with someone who is not interested in buying or has a mouthful of want and a handful of empty. I am open and have the rebuild recepts and pictures to prove it. PM me if you REALLY are interested.

Let's keep the R107 technical issues in the proper forum and leave this one for its intended purpose.
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Nice to see that there are some members of this forumn that know about early R107's, but I guess not about fishin'. I do not know where Mr. Pillay lives, but I am sure it is not under a bridge. There was no personal attack, only that I thought his comments were out of line for an open forumn and that I would not get into some form of contest over the proper ettequite for posting an item that I wished to sell. Issue is closed.

1. The original light alloy wheels (but not the covers) are available.
2 The original overriders are available although one needs some work and rechroming
3. The original brushed chromes wipers are avaialble - the ones that are on the car do a much better job.
4. The mirrors are from a later model (for safety reasons), but the original are avaialble
5. The visors are from a later model (yes, the lighted mirrors work!), but there are the original pieces of cardboard out on the Iinternet if someone wanted to enter a Concours de Elegance.
6. The car came with the antenna in that position - it could have been a dealer install.
7. Nothing to hide from someone who really has an interest in the car -Spent over $18k just in material on the rebuild. This is not the "average" R-107 which goes in the $5 - 8K range and IMHO are junk - enen though they might sort of run at that price and the uphoistery and top not have too many rips or holes. Mine is priced accordingly and I will not start dealing on this forum with someone who is not interested in buying or has a mouthful of want and a handful of empty. I am open and have the rebuild recepts and pictures to prove it. PM me if you REALLY are interested.

Let's keep the R107 technical issues in the proper forum and leave this one for its intended purpose.
Thanks for your clarification those questions. It would have been better to put them in you ad initially, but better late than never. You seem to be upset with a few members of this forum and I can't figure out why. Take a deep breath, it's not personal. They are trying to help you in their own way.

Your ad is still lacking in several critical areas. This is not 1972 and this is not newspaper classified ad with limited space for description and your ad needs to reflect this. It is an online ad in an enthusiast forum. Your ad does not meet the standard of a modern, well-informed buyer. Allow me to help you here...

You still only have one picture and it's a 6 footer. Premium cars demand detailed pictures. If you want people to believe your car is better than the rest, you're going to have to prove it. You placed your ad in an online forum and you have the ability to upload a virtually unlimited number of images. Your refusal to upload more either means: a. You are trying to hide something. Or b. You are lazy. Neither is an impression you want to make on a prospective buyer. You are appealing to a world-wide audience of prospective buyers that are not within driving distance of god-knows-where, GA. A buyer in Munich will not have an opportunity to come see the car in person but he may buy it anyway if he feels as he is there because you put up a lot of pics. You owe it to yourself and your audience to post more pictures if you want your ad to be taken seriously.

You have now told us:
A. How much you have supposedly spent on the restoration:
"Spent over $18k just in material"
B. What your car is not worth (some may disagree):
"This is not the "average" R-107 which goes in the $5 - 8K range"
But, you still haven't told us what you want for it. How can you expect anyone to be serious about even considering your car when you have withheld perhaps the single most-important element of the transaction, how much money you want for it. I can't figure out why you refuse to list a price in your ad. Perhaps in some long-forgotten age and time it added some sense of importance to the item being sold, I don't know I'm guessing here. A buyer that has to ask price will often move on without doing so.

Also, still no mileage declaration other than under 40k since mid 90s restoration.

A buyer today expects to have more detail. Lacking these details, prospective buyers will simply click to the next ad. There are too many "fish in the sea" and buyers that have to beg for more detail will simply move on. Especially with a vehicle as common as a R107.

Lacking detail, you can also expect that people, particularly in an open enthusiast forum, will try and fill in the blanks for you. Beat them to the punch by providing an accurate description that leaves nothing open for interpretation.

You can play silly games with not disclosing this or that until someone is interested. But, you will find virtually no one will show interest in the first place if you don't at least make a whole-hearted attempt at full disclosure. Buyers do not like to waste their time playing guessing games. They just move along.

If you are serious about successfully selling your car using an online forum like this, you will take my advice to heart. Or, you can leave it as is and keep your car.

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