And so... It is now Dec 3rd, 2011. I have spent the past WEEK, reading the ENTIRE Phamilton01 saga, and all auxiliary threads. I LOVE threads like this, and I hate to say that. I hate to say that because threads like this come at great expense, pain, and time consumption to the victims of the scammer. Still, makes for an enthralling read. I actually owe Phamilton a debt of gratitude, because I have not spent this much steady time on Benzworld, in years. I've never left, and use the forum for technical issues all the time. But I visit the forum more like picking up a manual, rather than participating. I think that is about to change.
Observation 1) I am NOT surprised by the actions of Phamilton. After the decline started, he clearly demonstrated himself to be a pathological liar. And I say that not the "name calling" sense, but in the actual definition sense of the word; Lies when it is very easy to tell the truth, lies to get sympathy, to look better, to save their butt, etc., fools people at first but once they get to know him, no one believes anything they ever say, has been caught in lies repeatedly, never fesses up to the lies. He WAS reliable, but when the excrement hit the oscillating ventilation device, he felt he had to resort to the above, instead of just telling people there were problems, here is a refund. Therefore, his actions were not hard to understand.
Observation 2) What IS hard to understand, in fact MIND-BOGGLING, are the 3-4 people who tried to defend this man's actions of not delivering goods or refunds for 7,8,9,(more?) months. They brush over even not just emailing someone a TRACKING number for 8 months! There is even one in this particular thread! Craziest things I have personally read on Benzworld. One main defender, who very, VERY oddly took it upon himself to rectify another guy's mess, even once stated that, (and I paraphrase), after months of being hounded for the parts or a refund, that Phamilton's commitment to fulling the orders or refunding the money, "waned, (and understandably so)." Say word?
There was another member, who, in the very MIDST of these threads, was still lobbying Phamilton to buy parts, even after Phamilton admitted that he was having trouble, and was PROVEN to STILL be giving and missing false deadlines not providing tracking numbers, and referencing long defunct shipping companies! "Yo, I be pleased to do business with you. Please PM me." Craziness to an astronomical degree.
Observation 3), The actions of MODS over in the w140 section during this episode were... a little disappointing, during this episode. Post deletions, censorship, of people trying to demonstrate they had been scammed, all the while letting one guy handle the "claims process". What a joke. Also, the banning of Phamilton; he should have never have been banned DURING this process. Afterwards, sure, ban away. In fact, may he never walk these halls again. But not while these threads were open and accusers were free to post, and he could not respond. That's why they got rid of debtors prison. How is someone going to pay you back if they are locked up/out? (I know it must be killing certain people that they have no control over in THIS forum.)
I think this thread and threads like it has been of great service to the Benzworld community at large, and I thank the original collective posters/victims for coming forward. With all that said;
12/03/11: What's the update??? Was everyone made whole by either Phamilton or his (oddly self-appointed) surrogate?
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