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Some guy stopped me this weekend and asked me about my springs. I told him a set was here for sale, maybe he'll pick them up.
That's great! Thanks for passing the info along!
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Do you really have to cut these brand new springs and do all the rest of this stuff to get them to work properly?
He's saying on his particular car, to get the stance he wanted, he cut the front springs. The other stuff are things that you should do while you're in there because the spring has to be removed to replace them. It's probably an extra 2 hours of work, that, if done at the time of install, saves 4-5 hours sometime down the road.
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He's saying on his particular car, to get the stance he wanted, he cut the front springs. The other stuff are things that you should do while you're in there because the spring has to be removed to replace them. It's probably an extra 2 hours of work, that, if done at the time of install, saves 4-5 hours sometime down the road.
RE the stance, I don'y know anyone who didn't have a reverse rake even with 1nub shims in the front and 3 in the rear. Check the boards plenty of threads. Cutting the spring is easy. The extra work is an extra 2 hours of work and will save a lot more than 4-5 hours and lots of $$$ in labor.

As far as the swaybars, I would do this on any 123.

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I did read the group buy thread on these. I may have missed it, but which engine/chassis did they end up designing to? I read of several being tossed around.
They designed for the v6, iirc there was only 50lb weight difference.
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Vogtland engineered and designed these springs to be progressive and function as a unit, but to get them to FIT with the car properly one needs to cut them, thereby nullifying the manufacturers engineered effect. However, one doesn't need to cut them, but the front end will end up being higher than the rear? Is this correct?
These are not progressive and I think you are over estimating the amount of technology involved in making/designing springs. Nothing is correct about reverse rake.
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what will these actually do for your car? ive felt the first things i need to do first though are replacing the floor pan and getting the ac system / vent system fixed, but the next step WOULD be suspension, so this being the case, would it be worth it for me to get these springs? i guess wihle i had the suspension off i could redo the undercarriage of the trunk as well.. O.O sweet!
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I did read the group buy thread on these. I may have missed it, but which engine/chassis did they end up designing to? I read of several being tossed around.
They designed for the v6 as the td is hard to find there, iirc there was only 50lb weight difference.
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Vogtland engineered and designed these springs to be progressive and function as a unit, but to get them to FIT with the car properly one needs to cut them, thereby nullifying the manufacturers engineered effect. However, one doesn't need to cut them, but the front end will end up being higher than the rear? Is this correct?
These are not progressive and I think you are over estimating the amount of technology involved in making/designing springs. Nothing is correct about reverse rake.
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what will these actually do for your car? ive felt the first things i need to do first though are replacing the floor pan and getting the ac system / vent system fixed, but the next step WOULD be suspension, so this being the case, would it be worth it for me to get these springs? i guess wihle i had the suspension off i could redo the undercarriage of the trunk as well.. O.O sweet!
2.5" drop and with the td sway bar will all but remove body roll. I should really get a G meter and see what I can pull in it.
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Technical Data on W123 Vogtland Springs

Does anyone have the technical data for these springs: i.e. sedan vs coupe, 5 cyl vs 6 cyl, 25mm vs 50mm drop? Thanks, Scott
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SOLD! Thanks for all the interest!
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