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Whaddyaknow, I'm selling my Benz again.

Taken straight from my craigslist ad in GRANTS PASS, OREGON.

I've given up on my dreams of driving around in a classic car burning vegetable oil. There's just too many obstacles made out of rust, grease, funky electronics from the 70s and cold weather (and not having money) in the way. So f**k it, I'm done.

1978 Mercedes Benz 240D - this car needs massive amounts of TLC.... she runs and drives very well, but there are catches. If you're ready to get your hands oh so very dirty and are looking for a project, this is honestly a great start. Since I'm a terrible used car salesman (see, does not make profit) I will tell you now with complete honesty (not the Nigerian kind) everything I know about this car, which I've had for about 2 months and driven only about 200 miles.

The body: Back in the day, Mercedes had the brilliant idea of spraying vinyl undercoatings on the bottom of some of their cars to prevent rust. What it actually did was trap water and completely eat out the floor boards (see pics). You will need sheet metal, a welder and some basic skills to fix this. Welding is actually not that hard. The rest of the body however, is in good shape, as you can see. The doors, roof and hood (mostly) are pretty straight. Of course this car is 32 years old and has been to a grocery store or 600 and does have dings, but they are small. Glass is good and has a crappy DIY tint job.

Drivetrain: Leave her out in the cold for two weeks and she'll still start. She did for me today when I locked the keys to my daily driver inside the house, and tonight when it was below freezing. The engine is good. If you didn't know, Mercedes-Benz makes and has made for a long time, the best diesel engines in the world hands down. The literally outlast the rest of the car, and all competition. Jesus Christ had one in high school, and it is still running today as a taxi in Greece. Not that miles matter, but it's a bit under 272K. The four speed manual transmission (Yep, a Benz with a stick) is geared short enough that it can move forward at a leisurly pace, and tall enough to maintain freeway speeds... even into the 70s... without screaming, which could not really be said about the previous W115 chassis. Second gear synchro is a little rough so you have to go easy on it. Or in other words, drive normally, because attempting to accelerate quickly in something that weighs over 3000 pounds with 72 horsepower new is just silly. The engine runs so well in fact, that it does not want to stop running. There are 2 ways to shut off the engine: you can put it in gear and stall it with the clutch, or you can stop, open the hood, and press the stop switch (factory equipment) I don't recommend doing this one on a hill, since the parking brake does absolutely nothing and the car will run away from you and crash into a school if you get out without leaving it in gear. This engine not wanting to stop issue is vacuum related. Everything on old Benzes runs on vacuum, even the auto transmissions and power windows. Both engine and transmission could really use fluid changes. This would probably help the hard shifting. There is a belt that needs tightening or replacing. Or you can drip oil on it every few minutes. I do not recommend this while driving.

More: This engine is also running on B99 biodiesel, and has had the fuel lines replaced with bio compatible Viton, which will not dissolve like vinyl or rubber after a few months. I have reason to believe it has been running only bio for several years and has not had much if any injector pump murdering ULSD flowing through it. If you're unfamiliar with biodiesel, it smells great, burns cleaner, and lubricates your engine way better than synthetic diesel (that green petroleum crap gas stations sell) It also has a few parts for WVO, like a heat exchanger and some kind of 3 way switch. More work is needed though if you want to go all veggie.

Brakes: This baby stops on a dime. Because she can't get over it. Ha! Just kidding, you can run over several stacked dimes with power to spare. The brakes, which are power all wheel discs stop the car fantastically, even better than my 1997 Toyota. Parking brake, see above. Tires hold air and look OK, but are old.

Interior: Filthy. Besides the rust, the interior really needs a hardcore scrubbing to get all the biodiesel off the vinyl. The steering wheel is uncleanably soaked and should be replaced. The windows are manual, which is good because Mercedes power windows suck, and they all work. The dash is in decent condition though.

Electrical: Seriously, I wish vehicles made in the 70s didn't have any electronics on them at all. Dash lights don't work, turn signals don't work (I think I cut the wrong wire), aftermarket stereo is a mystery, heater works but is not very hot. Air conditioning? Yep, it's there. Probably doesn't work though. Fortunately though, that's all that's electric on this car. The fuel supply is good old mechanical indirect injection.

Legal crap: The tags expired in 2007. I have the title. It is not in my name because I have not registered it because that now costs $121 (Thank you Adoph Hitler, I mean Ted Kulongoski) But I'm pretty sure it's a clean title. Legally clean, not physically clean. The title itself is coated in grease and biodiesel, just like everything else. I'll present it in a plastic bag.

What I want: 3000 dollars? Yeah, right. I know I'm going to take a loss just like the last 16 cars I've sold, so I'll take what I can get. I would also consider trading for something like.... an economy car maybe, bullion, handgun(s), tools, another diesel (Yes, I'm willing to repeat this all over) or whatever.

Not interested in electronics, quads, dirtbikes, gas guzzlers, or stupid crap.

Please email me at emjayelle@hotmail.com, please do not leave your phone number, I cannot call you. PICTURES: http://s24.photobucket.com/albums/c3...240D%20Diesel/
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I wish I was closer if only to meet you....I found myself laughing routinely while reading your add...you should write for the network comedy shows. Good luck I have been running WVO blended and centrifuged (simple centrifuge brand)in my Benz for 4 years now (single tank) and agree with you, they built great engines. Get an SD I have paid for both of mine in fuel...and no maintenance except the A/C and regular oil changes.

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Hey, any luck selling 'er? And I couldnt tell from your listing but are you really asking for $3000??? I was just wondering...
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He makes it sound like it ought to go straight to a field. Another WVO dream bites the dust; it's about time.

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