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Hat's-off for your time & efforts viejo1221

RKH, I'm not a lawyer either... but a software co. VP once called me the best 'barroom' version he'd ever met. Does that count?
I believe the operative word in the statute is "scheme", so a one-off deal may not count- multiple occurrences would have to be proven . And, if someone SENT something by mail, it would need to be done in furtherance of said scheme.

Also as far as Western Union, it's particularly favored by scammers because it's a 'clean', easy method to transfer funds OUT of the US.
Just my 2cents... now back to the bar.
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Knowing how screwed he may be, you might just say, pay me small payments even if they're small, to avoid the possibility of criminal charges like RKH says. He'd be stupid to let $120 dig him deeper with problems. But who knows...

Hope you get a response from him. Let us know.
He hasn't responded yet, but I told both Chris, (left messages) and the moderator that had PM'd me, that I was more than willing to take time payments, in the case he may be strapped. I'd be willing to take $10 to $20 a month, anything to show good intentions.

Somehow I had suspected early on that he may be in trouble, but now it seems he's way over his head.

I even offered to send him additional money to ship it, but got no responce.

Even today, if he were to just be honest and say he's broke and can't ship it, I'd send him another $35 shipping fee just to put the whole thing behind us. I'd rather pay an extra $35 to get the swaybar than to lose the $120 completely.

But in the big scheme of things, it'll probably end up as a lesson learned.

Let me list some things to watch for---

1 - New forum member offers - something Rich talked with me about a long time ago, without some history to review, new forum members, or low post members are not a safe buy, unless for cash in person transactions

2 - Paypal isn't secure at all, but back Paypal up with a Credit Card for additional Bank security

3 - USPS - if mailing a check or money order, make sure you send it registered and return signature required

4 - Moderators have little power over anything except Banning a member. But a member only needs a new email address and a new name to start over again..

5 - Too good to be true - If it sounds that way, it probably is.

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I even offered to send him additional money to ship it, but got no responce.

Even today, if he were to just be honest and say he's broke and can't ship it, I'd send him another $35 shipping fee just to put the whole thing behind us. I'd rather pay an extra $35 to get the swaybar than to lose the $120 completely.

WHAT??????????????? You would send this guy more $$$$?????????
Hey, if he doesn' t have the money to ship, have him send it collect, pay the extra $15 +$35, but do not send any more money (seems like a moot issue anyway).

If a criminal investigation is started, it would almost be worth the $120.....

Hope it ultimately works out.
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WHAT??????????????? You would send this guy more $$$$?????????
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Just saying what I would be willing to do under the right circumstances. Odds are it will never come to that, I'd say he already sold it local to his area. I'm just not lucky enough to have someone step up and say they bought it from him and have it. Ulf got a big break on that one.

I do have a contact about 40 miles from him, I'd ask my contact to pick it up and mail it for me.

I'll make my complaint, file the reports and move on..
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Just saying what I would be willing to do under the right circumstances. Odds are it will never come to that, I'd say he already sold it local to his area. I'm just not lucky enough to have someone step up and say they bought it from him and have it. Ulf got a big break on that one.

I do have a contact about 40 miles from him, I'd ask my contact to pick it up and mail it for me.

I'll make my complaint, file the reports and move on..
I understand, I was just pointing out that he burned you once, why think he wouldn't do it again? If he really has no $$ to ship, and he ships it collect, it is more expensive, but you have the security of actually getting what you orignally paid for.

99.9% of the folks are honorable, you and Ulf are in the .1% minority. As you say, it probably won't get that far, but I hope it works out.
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