I poster this to the greasecar forum and the consences is that it's a scammer. I thought I would post this here because the thred was started already.
this guy Fred Campell writes me about my car I cant tell if he is a real wheeler-dealer, or if he is a spammer, or even a Scammer.
let me know what you think? this guy has become pesky in a mater of hours so I was wondering if anybody else has had contact from this guy.
this is from my sent box best read from bottom up
****Start Email****
$7000.00
are you talking about the 1982 240D?
fred campell wrote:
> can you tell me your last asking price
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> Adam Hunt wrote: the car was listed yesterday the pictures where taken yesterday, it is what it is.
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> Adam
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> fred campell wrote:
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>> hello,
>> iam interested in your ad, if it isstill available for sale, pls get back to me with the last asking price and present condition.
>> thanks
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from what I understand I could take this car to Toronto and make a mint on it because most of the 123's in onterio are rusted thru.
one thing im confused about is, why would anyone write a check for more than they're paying? If someone gave me a check for $10,000 when the car was only $5,000? seems kinda fishy, if someone did that I'd just ask them to write a check for $5,000 plus wouldnt you wait to make sure its real!
the is the latest email from fred and myself I also copyed this to abuse@yahoo.com
read from botom up.
****Start Email****
Fred,
the price of the car just went up to $15000.00 and it must be picked up in person with cash in hand.
I don't know but I hear that there are allot of frauds on the Internet so for your protection I insist that you come with cash in hand to pickup the car so we can make sure that everything is in order.
the reason for the price difference is that I have another person writing me with a similar deal who has a buyer ready to go.
Good Day
fred campell wrote:
> Thank you for your response,after discussing
> with my client who really commended your vechicle
> instructed to move on with the deal at the price of
> ($7,000),he said he will be going on a vacation soon
> and will rest virtually all the transaction on my
> shoulder and assign a shipper like wise that i will
> work with and stressed that he will be issuing out a
> cashier check of ($14,000) which was a refund payment
> of a cancelled order earlier made by him but
> will be filed in your name,you are only required to
> deduct the cost of your vechicle($7,000) and
> send the differece ($7,000) when payment gets to you to a
> shipping agent whoose information will be given to
> you as at when due, he will be needing the fund to
> offset shipping charges, taxes and other c osmetic
> repairs/touches,the agent will be responsible for
> signing andtransferin! g of title paper and also pickup.
> So i require of you to send me your NAME,ADDRESS AND
> PHONE NUMBER for payment to be delivered to you via
> fedex courier services All other information needed
> in completion of this transaction will be given to
> you in due time.
> thanks
For those who aren't aware, there are many scammers out there that pay with stolen checks. They clear in your account, you give the change and your item, and a week or two later, the bank and FBI contact you after they withdraw the total amount back out of your account.
a friend of mine got beat for $3,000 in a scam... he was selling his cuda on ebay... a guy contacted him, was willing to pay the asking price in advance, all sounded great... he asked if my friend could find out how much a local shipping company would charge to ship the car to europe... my friend contacted a few companies, & replied that the price he got from the company he felt most comfortable with was like $3,000... they spoke on the phone several times, & my friend felt comfortable with the whole thing, especially since it was clarified that the car wouldn't leave his possesion untill the funds were cleared, no if's, and's or but's about that.
my friend recieved a check for the purchase price & the shipping charges, with assurance that the car should not be shipped until the funds clear... all sounded good, & by then, he actually considered this guy to be a freind sorta, they spoke on the phone several times by this time. so the next day, when the guy called him & said that he had arianged a different shipping company through one of his clients, my friend thought nothing of it, again the guy said, don't worry, they won't pick up the car for another week, & the funds will definatley be cleared by then, but could he please refund him the shipping price so he may put a deposit on the alt shipper, he even had the balls to say if you want to wait for the funds to clear, that would be ok, but he really wanted to put a deposit on the other shipper, my friend said, sure, no problem, & promptly refunded him the $3,000 excess
guess you can guess the rest... he was so blinded by selling a $40,000 car, & speaking on the phone with the buyer several times, that he never considered the whole scam was for just the shipping price...
the guy who did this was good, & my friend is not an idiot or gulable at all, but he still got shafted, & wasted quite a bit of time, & blew off other potential buyers for the car in the meantime...
Just a heads up about member DobemanXX. Commited to buying my two 300TE's and talked me into ending my ebay auctions. Kept saying payment was on the way and wanted me to send the titles so he could "preclear" customs. Of course, I didn't send the titles and he never sent payment. Be careful of this guy!
For those who aren't aware, there are many scammers out there that pay with stolen checks. They clear in your account, you give the change and your item, and a week or two later, the bank and FBI contact you after they withdraw the total amount back out of your account.
Take care...
Sorry to reply to a post that's about three months old but this relates to your post. If you need proof of what happens when you try to cash one of those fake checks then you need to check out Clark Howard's website. I wasn't sure if I could post his website on here for you to check out the story for it will probably get deleted so just Google it. A guy was scammed by someone who gave him a fake check. The seller called Bank of America to see if the account was legit and had the funds which was true. The accound DID have funds and it WAS a real account but the check that the scammer gave him was a fake. This guy went to jail for falling prey to a scam as described in the above mentioned posts. He had to spend a lot of his own money to protect his freedom and did not get reimbursed by the bank. Check it out and I think you'll find it interesting. You may have to go to his archives to get the whole story because the issue is now winding down. It used to be front page news on his site a few weeks ago.
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