» Wheel & Tire Center

» Sponsors
» Sponsors
Go Back   Benzworld.org - Mercedes-Benz Discussion Forum > Mercedes-Benz Roadster Forums > R129 SL Class
Register Home Forum Photo Gallery eBay Marketplace Active Topics Blogs Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Please Visit our Site Sponsors

BenzWorld.org is the premier Mercedes-Benz Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-04-2009, 12:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
BenzWorld Junior Member
 
Date registered: Oct 2009
Vehicle: 1999 SL 500
Location: Mt Dora Florida
Posts: 38
M137 Engine Swap

Is it possible, or has anyone attempted to drop the V12 motor in a R129 chassis?

Jeff
cygnusceo is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 

Old 11-04-2009, 04:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
BenzWorld Elite
 
roncallo's Avatar
 
Date registered: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,159
Quote:
Originally Posted by cygnusceo View Post
Is it possible, or has anyone attempted to drop the V12 motor in a R129 chassis?

Jeff
For me making the go no-go decision required purchasing the car with the engine for proper evaluation. I would say right off the bat that chances are very good because the 129 came with an M120 V-12. The main area of concern is what might be in the way of the turbos.
__________________
To see my 129 parts for sale visit:
http://stores.ebay.com/The-Mercedes-SL-Store

John Roncallo
roncallo is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2009, 05:47 PM   #3 (permalink)
BenzWorld Elite
 
msbarsi's Avatar
 
Date registered: May 2006
Vehicle: 2000 Obsidian Black Metallic Mercedes SL 320 V6
Location: Northern Italy near Milan
Posts: 3,211
Quote:
Originally Posted by roncallo View Post
For me making the go no-go decision required purchasing the car with the engine for proper evaluation. I would say right off the bat that chances are very good because the 129 came with an M120 V-12. The main area of concern is what might be in the way of the turbos.
roncallo the M137 is the V12 n/a 5.8L one with 367 PS or the V12 n/a 6.3 L with 444 PS (AMG).
The bi-turbo V12 is the M275.

cygnusceo, sorry for asking but since the R129 already came with a V12 (the M120) why do you want to use a V12 from another car? Just wondering.

Cheers.
__________________
I drive like I stole . . . YOURS
msbarsi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2009, 05:49 PM   #4 (permalink)
BenzWorld Junior Member
 
Date registered: Oct 2009
Vehicle: 1999 SL 500
Location: Mt Dora Florida
Posts: 38
I am debating that issue myself LOL..

If I change the power plant I will go with the M120

J
cygnusceo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2009, 07:31 PM   #5 (permalink)
BenzWorld Elite
 
roncallo's Avatar
 
Date registered: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,159
Quote:
Originally Posted by msbarsi View Post
roncallo the M137 is the V12 n/a 5.8L one with 367 PS or the V12 n/a 6.3 L with 444 PS (AMG).
The bi-turbo V12 is the M275.

cygnusceo, sorry for asking but since the R129 already came with a V12 (the M120) why do you want to use a V12 from another car? Just wondering.

Cheers.
Oh I dident realize that . If the M137 is not available as a turbo the whole effort would be a total wast of time. Just get and SL600.
roncallo is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2009, 07:35 PM   #6 (permalink)
BenzWorld Elite
 
roncallo's Avatar
 
Date registered: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,159
Quote:
Originally Posted by cygnusceo View Post
I am debating that issue myself LOL..

If I change the power plant I will go with the M120

J
I can promise you that it would be far less costly to sell your SL500 and purchase an SL600, then it would be to convert one.

Allot cheaper.
roncallo is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2009, 09:53 PM   #7 (permalink)
BenzWorld Elite
 
chriswufgator's Avatar
 
Date registered: Oct 2007
Vehicle: MB SL600, MB 380SE, Suzuki Grand Vitara, 38' Chris-Craft, Volvo V70XC, and my own two feet...
Location: Florida
Posts: 3,224
Send a message via AIM to chriswufgator
The M137 is a turd compared to the M120 that the 129's already came with OEM.

The M137's got 30 less horsepower and has a pretty bad rep reliability-wise. I'm not sure why you would want to change motors? The M120's are a bulletproof design. The only ones I have ever heard of having real problems or needing rebuilding were the early M120.980 motors in the W140's. The original engine management had a fault that under certain conditions would dump excessive fuel, washing the cylinder walls and causing scoring. But the later models in the R129 didn't have this issue, and are pretty trouble-free. Much better than the 137's. The ADS system, however, is another story.
__________________
"Veni, Vidi, volo in domum redire." (I came, I saw, I want to go home.)

chriswufgator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2009, 04:28 AM   #8 (permalink)
BenzWorld Elite
 
msbarsi's Avatar
 
Date registered: May 2006
Vehicle: 2000 Obsidian Black Metallic Mercedes SL 320 V6
Location: Northern Italy near Milan
Posts: 3,211
Roncallo is right: if you decide to go for the M120 you would be better off selling yours and go for an SL600.
As for the M137 I honestly can't see a reason why you should go r that engine and to be very honest with you I can't really see a reason why Mercedes produced that engine first thing. Actually compared with the other V12 they produced that engine seems lame. If you really want an engine from that e you might want to consider the V12 bi-turbo M275 one that has 500 BHPs and from my point of view makes more sense.

No offense tho.

Cheers.
msbarsi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2009, 07:59 AM   #9 (permalink)
BenzWorld Elite
 
Date registered: Jan 2004
Vehicle: SL500, 300SL, 500SL
Location: Atlanta, USA
Posts: 2,001
Quote:
Originally Posted by chriswufgator View Post
The only ones I have ever heard of having real problems or needing rebuilding were the early M120.980 motors in the W140's. The original engine management had a fault that under certain conditions would dump excessive fuel, washing the cylinder walls and causing scoring.
If this is true, then it is a useful tidbit of information worthy of being repeated in the future. But as an ex-Bosch engineer I am skeptical, and with so much misinformation on the web I wonder if the source for this engine management fault is credible...
__________________
Many used parts available from a '92 SL. Email or PM for more information
bobterry99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2009, 08:31 AM   #10 (permalink)
BenzWorld Junior Member
 
Date registered: Oct 2009
Vehicle: 1999 SL 500
Location: Mt Dora Florida
Posts: 38
Thanks for all the input. I will most certainly "not" being doing an engine swap LOL.

Jeff
cygnusceo is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Benzworld.org - Mercedes-Benz Discussion Forum > Mercedes-Benz Roadster Forums > R129 SL Class




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Topic Author Forum Replies Last Post
86 Mercedes Benz 420SEL Engine SWAP??? For a 380SE Engine pimpdaddy3413 W126 S,SE,SEC,SEL,SD,SDL Class 15 09-01-2009 01:11 PM
300e 1991 w/ engine swap 1989 - Engine Problem KillerTomatos W124 E,CE,D,TD Class 8 02-26-2009 04:54 PM
190e engine swap with 300e engine -increase HP The Melmaan W201 190 Class 16 11-05-2008 10:23 AM
Engine swap - GE300 engine mounts or similar? UG G-Class 2 10-17-2005 10:30 AM
engine swap info?? euro engine in US car running rich HeirKranz W126 S,SE,SEC,SEL,SD,SDL Class 14 04-28-2005 07:18 AM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 07:51 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0