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Old 11-06-2012, 03:03 PM   #481 (permalink)
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Who did your ECU tune and what did they do? Were they able to tune it specifically to the mods you have or just do a basic parameter change w/ the fuel curves and ignition timing!! Also is there seperate tuning for the 5 speed auto in the M119 or does the main ECU handle that too. Is the trans programmable to hold gears to redline in each gear? I'm also interested in a gear change, 2.56 is stock I hear, a 3.08 or 3.55 would be mean!!!
Brabus did my ecu tune to match with my engine mods....

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I'm just trying to make it run stronger than most without going inside the engine. The M119 is a masterpiece of engineering and I wouldn't dare mess with it, but if I can make it breath better, tune it and a maybe a gear change I think I can make a stock 14.0 14.1 car do 13.0 or maybe 12.6 with the gears, which would be SWEET, gears are last resort and I would have to see someone w/ them and results before attempting as well
I hate to say this..... The mods that you doing to your car not going to make your car run in the low 13...... mid 12 forget it...... Sorry.....

I guarantee your car not running in the low 14 too......

If you don't want to mess with the engine..... Just go with the K&N air filter & full exhaust system..... That will get your car to run in the low 14 to high 13.......

I think most members will agree with me.....
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:38 AM   #482 (permalink)
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Beware all the money you spent on the mods to make your car go fast will cost a lot..... it not an investment it rather a preference......

It order to run in the mid 13 sec...... Your stock engine must be in a great shape..... before you mods your engine......

Air intake you need K&N, custom porting & polish, port-matching with both upper & lower intake plenums, TB and exhaust manifolds...... like what Ken doing...

Exhaust system...... Running a straight pipe or high flow metal catalyst system, delete the resonator, and put on the a light weight high flow muffler.....

Weight reduction...... take off your hardtop, spare tire, light weight battery, and if you can change your seat that would be great....... Those seat weight 100 pounds each.....

After all that now you can get your ecu tune.......

BTW if you do all those mods don't forget to upgrade your brakes system....
Excellent words of advice mentioned by Tony.

In addition to current performance modifications, power to weight ratio is critical.

According to the general consensus, 100 lbs = 1 tenth of a second give or take on the 1/4.
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:27 AM   #483 (permalink)
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I hate to say this..... The mods that you doing to your car not going to make your car run in the low 13...... mid 12 forget it...... Sorry..... I guarantee your car not running in the low 14 too......

If you don't want to mess with the engine..... Just go with the K&N air filter & full exhaust system..... That will get your car to run in the low 14 to high 13....... I think most members will agree with me.....
+1. Only way to get low 13's or high 12's will be with a NOS kit or 6.0L engine. I don't recall seeing anyone with a NOS kit on the 119.98x engine (1996-99), but I'd love to see that install with details on how it was done.

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Old 11-07-2012, 09:51 AM   #484 (permalink)
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hmm 100lbs = 1 tenth...

i think ive heard that before neoken but thanks. good knowledge to have.
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:24 PM   #485 (permalink)
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Brabus did my ecu tune to match with my engine mods....



I hate to say this..... The mods that you doing to your car not going to make your car run in the low 13...... mid 12 forget it...... Sorry.....

I guarantee your car not running in the low 14 too......

If you don't want to mess with the engine..... Just go with the K&N air filter & full exhaust system..... That will get your car to run in the low 14 to high 13.......

I think most members will agree with me.....
Well like I said before, I must have a factory freak because my best run was 14.217 @99.4 @ 1200 ft. elev and it was 98* outside, I'm sure when its in the 50's outside I could knock a tenth off of that, maybe more, but let me just make the point of I'm not trying to make this a street monster, I have one of those a 99' Pontiac Trans Am with a 6.0 LQ9 w/ twin GT28r's 60 trim, 4L80-E putting 878rwhp to the pavement!!! I just want to make it a strong runner and be responsive and improve efficiency and sound and not get waxed by another R129 if one gets on the side of me or even a newer 03-06 w/ M113. This is only my second Benz, my first was a 78' 450sl 15 years ago, so I'm not well versed in Benz tech and that is why I am seeking wisdom here not sarcasm and crap outers! How about some optimism or support!!
In a nutshell, I'm just trying to make the fuckin thing run stronger
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Well like I said before, I must have a factory freak because my best run was 14.217 @99.4 @ 1200 ft. elev and it was 98* outside.
That outstanding..... You got a very healthy M119 motor.....

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I just want to make it a strong runner and be responsive and improve efficiency and sound and not get waxed by another R129 if one gets on the side of me or even a newer 03-06 w/ M113.
Like, what i say your motor is healthy and running strong for stock..... You're not going to get beat by an SL with m113 motor...... You can trust me on this one...... If an m113 motor is mods it can turn in to a MONSTER.....!!!

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I'm not well versed in Benz tech and that is why I am seeking wisdom here not sarcasm and crap outers! How about some optimism or support!!
In a nutshell, I'm just trying to make the fuckin thing run stronger
Just go with the K&N air filter & full exhaust system first..... I'm sure you will be happy with the result...... With out messing with the engine....
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That outstanding..... You got a very healthy M119 motor.....



Like, what i say your motor is healthy and running strong for stock..... You're not going to get beat by an SL with m113 motor...... You can trust me on this one...... If an m113 motor is mods it can turn in to a MONSTER.....!!!



Just go with the K&N air filter & full exhaust system first..... I'm sure you will be happy with the result...... With out messing with the engine....
Should i get rid of the cat too? one member said he gained almost .5 by doing that alone. Any suggestions on muffler brand and pipe diameter?
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Should i get rid of the cat too? one member said he gained almost .5 by doing that alone. Any suggestions on muffler brand and pipe diameter?
96+ years you shouldn't remove the cats. people have done it and it has lead to many problems if i understand correctly.
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Any suggestions on muffler brand and pipe diameter?
Hi Mike, various configurations are available regarding M119 exhaust modifications.

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Old 11-08-2012, 12:59 AM   #490 (permalink)
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96+ years you shouldn't remove the cats. people have done it and it has lead to many problems if i understand correctly.

Shit, that figures, are you positive about that? has anyone else heard that? I know Neoken removed his and gained a buttload of speed, but he is a 95', I wonder if it has to do with the OBD II. I'm going to have to do some investigating. What have you heard happens to them other than maybe throwing a code?
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