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Old 04-28-2008, 11:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
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After reading various posts on this subject, I’m somewhat confused. Everyone seems to suggest the ceramic pads. My question is, can I install ceramic pads with stock original disks? Some say the original disks are vented? Is this all years or only certain years? Some say switch to SA disks, this I believe has to be ’99 or newer? Maybe semi-metallic pads are fine for my everyday driving except for more brake dust. Any comments appreciated.
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Unless anyone know differently I believe ceramic brake pads can be used with all variants of our R129 models.

I fitted EBC Redstuff ceramic pads to standard R129 brake rotors and the results are quite staggering compared with stock pads. Brake dust is considerably reduced and I have noticed that they are wearing very well, I expected them to wear very quickly given my driving habits.
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Ceramic pads CAN be used with ALL rotors. If the rotors are in good shape, I would just replace the pads. If the rotors are not in good shape then replace the Pads& Rotors.
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Ceramic pads CAN be used with ALL rotors. If the rotors are in good shape, I would just replace the pads. If the rotors are not in good shape then replace the Pads& Rotors.
Thanks Drags for clarifying that and the additional advice
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I concur ,, I replaced my stock pads with ceramic . My rotors were not in bad shape and as with most standard brake jobs I had them turned (cleaned up) at my local auto parts store before re-installing them.

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Wait a minute.......I was told I have to replace both rotors and pads at the same time. Once by the stealer, and the other time a well-known Indie in this area. Are you guys saying you can replace the pads without the rotors? I am confused.
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Wait a minute.......I was told I have to replace both rotors and pads at the same time. Once by the stealer, and the other time a well-known Indie in this area. Are you guys saying you can replace the pads without the rotors? I am confused.
Lol...it is their job to sell parts, and most of them are pretty good at it...
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After reading various posts on this subject, I’m somewhat confused. Everyone seems to suggest the ceramic pads. My question is, can I install ceramic pads with stock original disks? Some say the original disks are vented? Is this all years or only certain years? Some say switch to SA disks, this I believe has to be ’99 or newer? Maybe semi-metallic pads are fine for my everyday driving except for more brake dust. Any comments appreciated.
Yeah, go with ceramics regardless of whether or not you change the rotors. They are just wonderful...braking performance is identical, but they are verrrrry gentle on the rotors, and they cut brake dust by about 99%...

As to the rotors, you can tell what kind of shape they are in by feeling the edges to find out how much "lip" is there. If it's more than just a millimeter or two, then definitely replace them at the same time. Once you already have the wheels and calipers off to change the pads anyway, it is very little additional labor to change the rotors as well at that point...so that is definitely the time to do it...
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Wait a minute.......I was told I have to replace both rotors and pads at the same time. Once by the stealer, and the other time a well-known Indie in this area. Are you guys saying you can replace the pads without the rotors? I am confused.
You really don't have to but I have found that since the introduction of semi metalic pads the rotors are generally worn to the limit buy the time the pads need to be replace. Since I do my own work and rotors are fairly inexpensive today I replace both.
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Yeah, go with ceramics regardless of whether or not you change the rotors. They are just wonderful...braking performance is identical, but they are verrrrry gentle on the rotors, and they cut brake dust by about 99%...

As to the rotors, you can tell what kind of shape they are in by feeling the edges to find out how much "lip" is there. If it's more than just a millimeter or two, then definitely replace them at the same time. Once you already have the wheels and calipers off to change the pads anyway, it is very little additional labor to change the rotors as well at that point...so that is definitely the time to do it...
Oh another thing since I replace my rotors and pads together I do not care about how well ceramics wear the rotors. I only wish I could get a set of ceramic pads for my 107's. I've herd ceramics are harder on the rotors than semi metalic. I woulden't know since I cant get them for my car. But I certainly would like a set since I hate dust.
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