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OT: who owns the information?
Since all the info we post here is in BW servers, we don't own the info. Theoretically, BW could charge for access to view the info. Does anyone feel there's a risk?
Perhaps it is time for me to finally upgrade from the free membership. I have just never seen the reason before since I don't perceive much benefit from my point of view.
The information on this forum has been worth LOTS if money to me though.
R107 Parts Wanted:washer bottle (1978), blue r107 visors, 107 trunk spare tire well, 107 headlight wiper arms
w107 FS/trade/giveaway: 4 silver BBS RS009 8x16 et11 (won't fit front of 560sl without spacers and smaller lips), D-jet parts, 1975: (wiper motor, multiswitch, coil, injectors, etc.), US headlights, a black 1973 450sl
Since all the info we post here is in BW servers, we don't own the info. Theoretically, BW could charge for access to view the info. Does anyone feel there's a risk?
Perhaps it is time for me to finally upgrade from the free membership. I have just never seen the reason before since I don't perceive much benefit from my point of view.
The information on this forum has been worth LOTS if money to me though.
Sounds like you have a perceived reason, C'Nest Pas?
According to the tou, users grant rights of ownership to Benzworld (vertical scope?) to any info posted... Just a reminder.
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I was such a rookie at forums in general I thought I had to pay when I first signed up. The Lifetime seemed like a better deal than a short term membership that I would have to renew again and again so I did that. No regrets.
I would guess that most (if not all) forums have a similar clause in their terms of usage. Can't imagine BW being unique in that respect. Believe your looking for a solution to a non-existent problem.
Not sure that paying for membership right now protects you any better, does it?
If they decide to charge us for our contributions to their enterprise at a later date, I guess that a decision we will all have to face then, after weighing the alternatives.
These types of forums make their money from advertising/linking. The quality of our postings attracts viewers to the ads. What we get in return is community knowledge. Win, win IMHO. If you subscribe, they excuse you from seeing the ads. Not many subscribe and subscription revenue pales in comparison to advertising/linking revenue.
If BenzWorld became a fee-only site, it would probably die.
Anything I post is usually 107 related for the benefit of ALL.
The key word is PUBLIC. Anyone could come and "lift" good info from here and write a book if they want.
I've gained more than I've given so I feel I am WAY ahead. If someone wants to borrow some photos or whatever for another enterprise.....at the end of the day...it will benefit even MORE 107 owners.
Keep your shit 107 orientated and only 107 owners will benefit.
As far as I'm concerned, if you get a paid membership...then BW has successfully charged you for MY contrbutions.
Good for them. It cost money to run this thing.
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I guess I take it for granted that all the info will be available for me to search later. Post a part number and remember how to find the thread and I am good. If you know me, you probably realize I use this site sort of like a diary. If I lost it all, I would be majorly bummed.
There are always things that are out of the control of the owners. For example, if BW gets sued and court ordered to pull down the whole site, all our info is basically lost with the exception of some of the board-reader sites that automatically duplicate the info.
So it isn't so much about the free vs paid membership but the risk of it all disappearing. You are right, my paid membership won't keep it alive.
It seems BW has a better model than begging for contributions from readers/users like Wikipedia.
Sometimes I think I should find the threads where I have posted what I have done to my cars and print them all out in order to know I have a backup of the most important stuff. Does anyone else do this?
Or since we get to a certain level of contributions around here, is it ever like we could maybe trust that Dave and Dog might always be able to help us to get access even if the site went down?
I remember those few days when BW was down a year or so ago... I have to admit I was quite worried. Anyone else remember that?
Sometimes I think I should find the threads where I have posted what I have done to my cars and print them all out in order to know I have a backup of the most important stuff. Does anyone else do this?
Or since we get to a certain level of contributions around here, is it ever like we could maybe trust that Dave and Dog might always be able to help us to get access even if the site went down?
I would seriously doubt that the mods have access to the servers. No disrespect here guys but that would be a major security breach to allow anyone outside the company who owns BW to have access. Just isn't done unless you are an on-payroll vendor/software supplier. The mods have some control over the site but not the servers that run it.
As far as backing up check into a program called doPDF. It basically allows you to print web pages into Adobe Reader (.pdf) files and save them on your hard drive. I posted a tutorial on it.
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