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107 Visor Repair and Adjustment

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#1 · (Edited)
One of the most annoying things about a 30 year old 107 when we first receive them is the visors are ugly and falling apart, and will not stay up. This thread talks about the second problem staying up solid. Consider this thread to be the Viagra for visors.

First thing to understand is there are two adjustments on each visor. First adjustment holds the rod tight so it can remain suspended without the holding clip engaged. Second adjustment hold the visor tight to the rod so that it will stay up in place.

In addition there is a clip on each visor that often fails. The male portion of this clip is only available aftermarket by itself, or else you have to purchase the entire visor from MB for about $500.00. I originally replaced my clips about 5 years ago with ones I found on E-bay. They were $50 for just the 2 male pieces at the time. I replace my female clips with 2 that I bought from MB dealer.

Shortly after the 2 female pieces that I got from the dealer failed and I give 3 possible reasons:

1) Possible incompatibility of the aftermarket male piece with MB female piece. Also lack of key on old aftermarket piece.

2) Loose rod that made clip bear the full weight of the visor.

3) Broken upper windshield trim piece that provides support to the female piece.

I addressed the 1st issue by purchasing a male female aftermarket set on E-bay from a guy named "107 clips". His clips have a feature that the factory clips have and other aftermarkets including the ones I had do not have. That is the little molded in key that engages into the slot at the end of the rod.

Sun Visor Clips NEW W107 280SL 350SL 380SL 450SL 560SL | eBay

See the first 3 pictures that show my old male clip, the new male clip and the rod with the slot for the key in the new male clip.

If you need to replace your male clips or tighten the rod so it stays up you will need to remove the upper windshield trim. This is done by removing the dome lights, mirror, three screws that hold the mirror support and one screw on the outer underside of each trim piece. Note that the mirror just pulls off its mount with a sharp tug using both hands.

If you are working on the later 107s with the illuminated vanity mirrors you will have to disconnect the ground and positive wire for each mirror. Also note that the white wire terminal connector insulators are probably broken or missing. See picture #4. The part number for these is 000 546 08 45. I intend to order about 30 of these for both my cars. They are used all over the place and they are cracked all over the place. Good idea to have a few available before getting started.

Now you are ready to remove the visor. There are three screws at the mount of each visor the outboard most and inboard most screws are the mounting screw. the middle screw is the friction adjustment screw that allows you to tighten the rod so that it will support the visor when unclipped. If you intend to replace your male clips remove the two mounting screws only. If you intend to just adjust the visor so it stays up with the visor unclipped than just tighten the center screw shown in the 5th picture

Now to remove the rod from the visor. Unfortunately I diddn' take any pictures of this, so therefore I will have to write a 1000 words. There is a screw in the visor at the point where the rod enters the visor. This is the screw that adjusts the friction on the visor so that it will be tight about the axis of the rod. If your visors rotate downward with the clip engaged then this screw needs to be tightened. But to remove the rod and male clip you will need to loosen this screw about 1 turn.

Now what you cant see. The friction clip inside the visor has a slot in it. The slot faces the screw. The rod has a key in it. In the normal installed position the key faces away from the screw. In order to remove the rod, it must be rotated so the key faces the screw. Rotate the rod 180° from its normal installed position. The rod mount may interfere and have to be twisted a little on its ball socket mount to do this. Now the key and slot are lined up and the rod can be pulled out. Make a note of the male clip orientation before pulling it out they are not symmetric, suggest you do one side at a time or you can refer to picture #6. You will be fighting allot of friction from the male clip and you will be able to feel that the key is lined up in the slot as you pass through it. Once the old male clip is clear the new one can be installed. If you get a new clip like the one I got with the key in it you will notice that it has to be installed with the key 180° out of phase making it very tight to install, but once you rotate the rod to the normal installation position after clearing the base key you will feel the clip snap into the shaft slot. Installing this clip will require allot of strength and rotating back and fort as you work the clip onto the rod.

OK now time to install the visor using the outboard and inboard most screws. Connect the wires if your illuminated. Adjust the tension of the center screw so that the rod stays up with a suitable amount of friction. Adjust the screw on the visor so that the visor stays up with a suitable amount of friction.

Once the frictions are set the upper windshield trim can be installed. With the friction set correctly the visor rod should not fall with the clip disengaged as shown in the last picture #7.

Ina addition to all this I stated that my female clip failure may have been caused by a broken trim, picture #8, which lost some of the support for the female clip. To help with this I put a washer on the back side of the trim as shown in picture #9 so that the clip would bottom out before compressing on the trim piece. I know this will relive stress on the trim but not sure it will help with the female clip cracking.

Update 3/13/2022. Dan Salmi posted this picture in another thread. I asked him If I could post them here. I think this is a great idea to tighten a warn ball and socket joint. See last picture.
 

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#12 ·
I replace my visor clips today and they work great. It's nice not to have floppy visors any more.

One problem though. I can't seem to get the mirror to pop back into place. It's one of those stupid, frustrating things that should be so simple, but it just won't cooperate. Any tips or tricks on getting the spring clips to reengage the bracket? My mirror was very tight to remove.
 
#19 ·
Argh, I did the exact same thing! You know you have it the right way if the screws countersink into the bracket.

I couldn't get the padded header off my 560, even with some fair force, as it was glued along the length of it, but I was able to move it just enough to get a screw-driver to the adjustment screw and tighten it. So nice to have the visor staying in place now!
 
#23 ·
Two things to add to this:

1) If you have trouble replacing the rearview mirror, try putting the other side up into the fitting first, then pushing in. I found if I put the right side of the mirror into the mount first, I couldn't get the mirror in at all, but if I put the left side in first, it went in without any trouble.

2) If you have issues with dome light wiring, such as there is none or it's not clear how the dome lights should be wired, here's a thread on that:

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/r-c107-sl-slc-class/1657882-notes-dome-light-wiring.html
 
#24 ·
All, I ordered the eBay clips from 107clips and they seem to work pretty well. Not quite exactly the OEM but very close, and some improvements especially on the female side.

I put the males in backwards the first time - it's important that you get it so the longer side of the male is towards the inside of the car. I had to take them out and redo, by then I was good at it!

Also the flathead tensioner screw can be cranked pretty tight in order to get the ball and socket rod end to do what you want. I've got mine like I like them now, they stay up no matter what. The same with the Phillips head screw, it can go pretty tight but doesn't need to because you want the visor to rotate on the rod (but not fall). It's a fine adjustment, just don't break the clip inside there when you remove/insert the rod!

To remove/insert the rod on my '72, I had to flip the rod around to a position where the male clip was facing backward (it's a position that would be impossible to put the visor in, if it were still in the car mounted), then slowly work the rod out, then I could spin it back once the rod's metal tab was past the restriction point...and reverse all that to put it back in. Like I said, double check your male clips before you finalize - the long end of the 107clips version of the clip needs to go to the inside of the car!
 
#25 ·
Full Instructions from 107clips

107 Clips @ Ebay
PLEASE READ AND INSTALL STEP-BY-STEP! THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT!
(These Steps Are To Prevent Your Sun Visors From Failure, And Certain Your Visor Clips Are Installed Correctly!)
W107 Sun Visor Installation And Positioning
(Phillips Screwdriver Needed)
Rearview Mirror Removal
Carefully and gently pull the rearview mirror. After pulling, you will see a little frame with 3 phillips screws. Remove the screws and pull off the frame. Note: You must re-install the little frame the same way as it was taken-off. This is very important, because if you flip it over, the screws will not align with the surface of the frame evenly, and it will be impossible to re-install the mirror.
Pillar Post Removal
Inside the female visor clip is a phillips screw, which you will remove. Inside the pillar post is a small hole on each end. Remove the phillips screw. This is important. Now, the pillar post is free to come out.
Positioning Of The Female Visor Clip
The female visor clip must be installed correctly, the way it came off! Each female visor clip is designed on the face surrounding it: On the top, there is a small edge, and on the bottom, there is a thicker edge. The thicker edge will always face the bottom of the car's interior. The smaller edge will face upwards towards the ceiling. Left or right visor clips are the same positioning.
Each female clip comes with a stainless steel washer that reinforces the visor, allowing tightening of the screw as tightly as needed, to be strong and solid.
Positioning Of The Male Clip
Turn 30 degree & pull the rod First ,The male visor clip is designed with a groove inside the hole, so that it will lock into the rod. At the end of the rod where the male clip fits, is about a 3" long groove. The male clip must position exactly in this groove. In other words, the groove inside the male visor clip must align with the groove in the tension rod. If they are not aligned, they will not go in.
Look closely at the male visor clip. You will see that it has an angled L-shape. This angle must install facing the other mounting visor end rod. This is very important because this controls the distance and fit design of all SL's. Otherwise, it will be difficult to mount the visors in and out. In some cases, it will put too much pressure on the female clip, and as a result, will cause damage. This is the way Mercedes-Benz designed the clips so that they will fit and work without problems. This is the correct way to install, and must be installed as such.
Removal Of Sun Visors
You have now removed the pillar posts. On each sun visor end, you will see 3 phillips screws. Remove the 2 screws from the outer ends, and the visor will come off.
For 560's with vanity mirrors, you must disconnect the ground wire, (which is held by a screw,) and the power wire that connects to the dorm lights. The dorm lights are connected with the upper pillar posts
turn 30 degree the rod & pull it ,this is the only Positioning way that the rod will free & come out ,do not just pull the rod @ any Positioning ,only 30 degree down ,that is the correct Position, pulling any other Position may damage the vissor
Installing Male Visor Clips
Next to the visor clip is a small screw, which you will loosen. This is one of the two tensioners. In order to remove the male clip, the tensioner must be loosened. Now, the rod will turn freely inside the sun visor. Turn the visor rod 30 degrees. You may now pull off the rod and install the new, male visor clip. (This part is very easy, as my new visor clips are designed with an interior groove and will slide right in: No pressure or power needed, and they will be locked-in permanently.) After installing the male clip, check to see that the angle is looking inside towards the end of the visor rod where the 2 screws come off. This is very important.
At the end, you will be able to tighten the tensioner beside the clip. The tensioner does not have to be too tight, which controls the visor itself. If you tighten too much, you will have problems pulling the visor down, so give a little slack. You will be able to position the visor itself to whatever angles you desire. This may be done any time after the sun visors are installed. But, the one inside with the 2 outer screws, must be done very well and only once, because it's a big process to repeat. Install correctly only one time, so that you will not have to ever go back and re-do it again.
Repair Or Tighten The Tensioners
Each visor has 2 tensioners. One is next to the male visor clip, and the other is between the 2 screws on the other end of the visor rod.
In the middle of the 2 screws, is a flat-head phillips screw. This one is to control the movement of the entire rod. It must be very well tightened. Some visors are so tight that they will not tighten anymore because they are no longer working properly: Either the rod or housing is worn-out, and they will not tighten well. In this case, you loosen-up the screw. Get a tiny piece of cloth, vinyl, or leather, and install it between the housing and the rod "ball," which is located on the back of the rod. You will see from where the tensioner came off. In the back, you will see the housing that holds the arm. Tighten the tensioner very well, because you will not have access to see the pillar post after installation. Thus, this is the time to install and tighten everything, so that you will not have any issues whatsoever with anything.
Install as per my instructions, and you will never have another problem with your sun visors again. You now have solid, strong visor clips with a lifetime warranty. Everything is tightened and in their proper positions; Hence, your problem is solved.
Purpose Of Tensioners
Tensioner One, (tensioner with 2 outer mounting screws:) Purpose is to keep the visor solid and straight with the support of the male clip itself. It makes the visor flexible enough to various, angled positions. You have a solid visor rod from the housing to the pillar post. It doesn't move up or down nor slide, and is correctly aligned.
Tensioner Two: Purpose is to control the visor so that you may control it up or down.
This is Mercedes-Benz's design, which is a wonderful system allowing you to do almost any position with your visors.
Each component has its' specific purpose, and was designed as such, so we must follow Mercedes-Benz's accuracy and precision. This is what works and looks best, and is also very safe.
*** This installation is very crucial and important. Not every mechanic knows the fine details, which are very important! If you are not performing the installation yourself, please provide your mechanic with the installation instructions!
Thank you for purchasing my W107 visor clips with lifetime warranty!
 
#35 ·
Vanity mirror glue?

I am interested to hear suggestions how to fix the vanity mirrors into the sun visors?

The used glue shall be strong enough hold the mirror, sun heat resistant, on the other hand weak enough to rebuilt the mirror again if needed.

I have used door sealing butyl style glue stripes but it is not strong enough.