CLASSIC AMG HELP ...1973 450slc AMG - Benzworld.org - Mercedes-Benz Discussion Forum

ussun · 06-01-2006, 09:33 PM

Is there anyone that can help me with on going restorations of my 1973 450 SLC AMG. PLEASE. 1)phone # 2)web sites 3)machanics 4)amg parts.
Accually any help would be great.
Manufactured 2/73
vi# 107024 12 001094
motor# 117982 12 013761
AMG mods-- full boby kit, lowering suspension, exhaust system (long since gone), amg motor set-up unknown as of yet. ***And the car is a full member of the AMG Private Lounge***

"Historical AMG" Parts list and order forms links; these's two pdf files are very slow to upload but very worth the wait. With great thanks to Huntrtylr of BenzWorld.org

https://share.acrobat.com/adc/docume...a-a73d1e024311

https://share.acrobat.com/adc/docume...7-3a3b6144e267

Thanks to all that posted help on this thread, it's been very helpfull and please post any new suggestions or ideas.

This is a list of things that I have had done. This list is not listed in the order that work was done;

1 installed custom cig lighter in fader switch hole AutoMar 8452653100
2 new right door handle AutoMar 8452653100
3 installed new leather front seats w/custom extra large driverside headrest -- installed by Reno 9147397511 he only works on cars older that 30 years old,
bought them from;
German Auto Tops, INC.
5547 Satsuma Ave.
North Hollywood, Ca. 91601
818-766-9511
fax 818-766-1185
German Auto Tops
My interior color code is mohagany
4 installed new carpets w/new under padding bought from German Auto Tops^^^^ installed by Reno 9147397511 he only works on cars older that 30 years old
5 installed new in dash dvd cd player w/ 6x8 speakers rear 3.5" in dash https://www.sonicelectronix.com/cat_...receivers.html Installed by Sound Investment 9145288811
6 installed new review camera lic. plate w/night vision https://www.sonicelectronix.com/item...+VB21C-RV.html Installed by Sound Investment 9145288811
7 repaired winshield washer pump and also replaced hose that goes from the reserve bottle to pump. AutoMar 8452653100
8 installed both right and left side floor pans and crossmembers firewalls rocker panels AutoMar 8452653100
9 insatalled new custom made crosswire knock-off wheel
Zenith Wire Wheel Company
818 Cristich Ln. #2
Campbell, CA 95008
408-559-0950, and or 1-408-379-3136
Tires
w/michelin's
p215/60R15 93T Michelin HydroEdge
Fit fine W/AMG lowering spring allready on car
Tire Products - Discount Tire Direct
10 installed new chrome trunk handle (Me)
11 installed hood insulation pad (Me) Only spray the liner, the over spray will get all over the engine. 3M Hi-strenght 90 spray adhesive Shop 3M: 3M Hi-Strength Spray Adhesive 90, 24 oz
12 installed new remote door locking system w/remote start
13 install chrome door jams and chrome door sill(Me)
14 installed used blower motor (Ebay) AutoMar 8452653100
15 installed left and right sway bar links AutoMar 8452653100
16 installed new front wheel bearings AutoMar 8452653100
17 installed and removed chrome fender trims (Me)
18 lower oil cooling radiator hose Adsit Company, Inc. | New, used and rebuilt parts for Mercedes Benz automobiles AutoMar 8452653100
19 intalled new ballast resistors AutoMar 8452653100
20 installed new ignition coil AutoMar 8452653100
21 installed new ignition control unit` Adsit Company, Inc. | New, used and rebuilt parts for Mercedes Benz automobiles
22 installed new muffler AutoMar 8452653100
23 glove box organizer Glove Box Organizer and Other Mercedes Parts and Mercedes Accessories by Performance Products
24 installed new teak burl wood dash pieces Alsa Corp | FXSheeting : Pricing - Ordering
25 tail pipe extensions (Me)
26 restained rear seats (Me) Dye in Aerosols for vinyl leather plastic and carpet, match factory colors (Me)
27 repaired body and paint entire car black plus removed side trims and trunk air fin.
28 light tinted windows by Steve at
ALL STAR CUSTOM AUTO
1530 RT 52
Fishkill NY 10512
Tel 845 849 3580
fax 845 849 3581
29 installed custom cup holder w/ teak burl AutoNotions - Creative Solutions for Classic European Cars (Me)
30 installed new "old world" AMG badge on rear and w/incorrect V8 (Kompressor) badges on right and left front fenders (Me)
40 installed chromed front grill (Flee Market) (Me)
41 installed chrome trunk lid edge trim (Me)
42 installed front and rear brakes and capilers and master cylinder AutoMar 8452653100
43 installed new vacum lines to vac tank AutoMar 8452653100
44 bought "450SLC AMG" floor mats GGBailey - Welcome!
45 sub frame checked, recall perviouslly done
46 installed new supercharger w/ele stablizer and on/off switch Supercharger Turbonator Stage 2 Superchargers Installed by Sound Investment 9145288811
47 installed a used distibutor from a 350sl AutoMar 8452653100
48 Installed armrest w/compartment (EBay)(Me)
49 Installed chromed pieces around both doors(Me)
50 Transmission Mount Auto Mar 8452653100
51 New exhaust tips AutoEffex
52 Replaced lower front grill w/ new chromed grill AutoMar 8452653100 and Me
53 Transfrered my ins to GEICO Car Insurance. Get an auto insurance quote and save today. Free online motorcycle quotes as well. - geico.com and saved
54 Timing chain replaced at mileage marker 128706, inside of engine looked as good as new BY Auto Mar 845265310055 bought a locking gas cap from Mercedes Benz Classic Parts and Restoration - Miller's Incorporated
56 Had new tires put on the 5 Bundts. Goodrich P205/70/R14 93T PRO at Odometer 133804
57 Bought all 4 belts for the engine and installed. By AutoMar 8452653100 11/4/08 od 134212
58 Leather key holder (ebay item 250302773450)
59 Replaced all plug w/splite fire plugs and wires w/ racing wires
60 Replaced old Distributor that had a 1/8" wabble in shaft w/ a used 350's distributor by Auto Mar 8452653100
61 Replaced old Upper Ball joints w/new kit replacements, (got kit $64.00 on Ebay) both sides 3/24/09 By George at Auto Mar 8452653100
62 differential oil checked 3/24/09
63 Horn repaired
64 cleaned wheels from over spray (done by my nephew) and by me I used Turtle Wax chrome polish. It worked so good I was suprised. Turtle Wax - Home and Meguiar's Hot Shine on the tires. I did use a little over spray on the rim to gloss them up a little. Car Care Products: Car Waxes to Leather Cleaners, Meguiar's the Leader in Car and Surface Care since 1901
65 Bought snell sa2005 approved helmet $144.00 from Discovery Parts Direct 770.716.5986 Fax 770-716-5989
66 Bought vanity licence plate AMG73SLC
67 4 wheel alignment $79.00 done by Mavis Proxy: Anonymous Proxy Software, Free Proxy Server List, Hide IP Address
68 Had rear wheel bearings replace at Auto Mar od. 136935
69 replaced upper oil cooler hose and oil filter washer by Auto Mar 138631
70 Replaced rear rotors with Meyle Mercedes Benz Parts, BMW Parts, Volvo Parts, VW Parts - Low Prices - Free Shipping coated Rotors also need new brake line made. By Auto Mar od. 138934
71 Had some hand painted pinstriping done around the v8 badges on the front fenders by "Howie" 8454623217 7/13/09
72 Removed the front bummerettes permitly.
73 Replaced all the front bumper rubber with new rubber
74 New KYB Air Adjustable shocks on the rear 143175
75 Repainted and had rear bumperettes removed $2500.00 143433 by All Star Sound 845-849-3590 Call Steve and Jay they wants more WORK. Fishskill NY

Things I have to do;

1) maybe total stainless steel exhaust system Mercedes 1972-76 350SL, 450SL and SLC Exhaust Systems
2) clean engine compartment (done) needs more(done)needs more
3) spray rear upper shelf with carpet stain
4) Maybe a new rear end with a better gear ratio
5) get car painted with the blue highlighting http://alsacorp.com/products/candyco.../candy05_L.jpg
6) stain rest of the interior (Done)needs more
7) Have sun roof leak fixed
8) have roof interior completely re-leathered (maybe black)
9) buy new antenna and have it installed ... bought
10) Install new Lambo doors hinges Extreme Lambo Doors Inc. - Your Number One Source for Bolt-On Vertical Lambo Door Kits and Systemsby Tuning Technology Motorsports, Farmingdale, Long Island, NY 11735, Performance Tuning For Audi, BMW, Mercedes, Porsche
11) Maybe somehow reverse the direction of the wipers.
12) Get original AMG mats from
In A Creative Way,
Keith Collins
ARTEXTURE, INC.
Studio: (323) 276-5030
Cell: (323) 559-8282
13) Find a real AMG rear valance piece (pre-1980 for 107) to replace the one I have. Mine is cracked near the exhaust and cut for the bummperette. If you know of one please PM me.

Trips in planning:

1) To Ind. for the Brickyard 400 at Ind. 500 track and see my sister. Ah and her pool. Plenty Of Fan Fun Set For Chevy Day At The Brickyard On July 25 :: Official site of the Allstate 400 at the Brickyard (done)
2) Going to the events-rolex-vintage Labor Day Vintage Car Race (done)
3) September 14th Sikorsky Benefit car show in Stratford. (done)
4) Get to race my SLC on a track Lime Rock Park The Club payed for on April 4th 2009 novice day (done) PDA Driving School
5) June 13-14 to Anchor Bar 6pm June 13th (done)
6) July 11-12th Giants Dispair Hill climb time trials Pennsylvania Hillclimb Association (done)
7) Brickyard 400 in Indy 7/25/09(done)
8) Lime Rock Park Rolex vintage event 2009 got the tickets $35.00 not bad Sept 7th 2009 (done)
9) 2010 GTG NC Litchfield Inn April 16th-18th 2010

This is the most up to date good pics of my 1973 450 SLC AMG 5/25/08
and a picture on me and my instructor at Lime Rock on 4/4/09
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New pic of my SLC without the front bumperette's
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Parts I have available for sale, PM me about them. I will email Pics. I will only except Pay Pal. I will email you a Pay Pal Invoice.

1) new, SLC rocker panel side member. Part #A1076370335 L $100.00 Plus shipping.
2) new, side member floor. Part #1076120314 $20.00 Plus shipping (for under the seat)
3 ) sold
4) very used, set of side moldings for SLC. $10.00 each piece. Plus shipping (the rear driver side SOLD) the other 5 still available
5) used, floor heat ducts part#1078310346 4 2790, 1078310446 4 2791. $20.00 each Plus shipping (the ducts that go from the consol to under the seats)
6) SL new rockerpanel inserts Right&Left Part # A1076100209 $200.00 each Plus shipping
7) A SLC is for sale around my location with the vi# ending in 000027 if your interested in restoring the 27th SLC ever made. (PM me) It not going anywhere believe me but it runs
8) v-belt s for slc-sl's part #005-997-83-92 v-belt $14. and 005-997-77-92 set of 2 v-belts. $20. plus shipping
9) Bought wrong trunk carpets set so there for sale the set has trunk battery tray so (black)...$100.00 plus shipping PAY PAL only page #39 post #389 (permalink) on this thread there's pics of them
10) set of used bumpprettes $75.00

Link to option codes
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/atta...tion-codes.pdf

http://www.ajseven.net/CODE.htm

Mercedes Benz schmatic drawings link ??????? ?????????MB. ????? ??????.

Some SL-SLC History Mercedes Benz 107 SL SLC Roadster Resource Center R107 W107 Home Page
and
Some AMG History with thanks to POS

Best I can gather, AMG was doing cars since the 60s, but it was in the early 80s (1980-1981) when they started growing into what we know AMG as - using the w126s, the r107s, and the w123s. Classic Motors in Westmont, Ill started bringing them in about 1980 - Buxbaum said my '83 SL was the second SL he'd ever brought in, and the first one came in late 1982. I never got the impression that he brought much in before that - he was into selling Ferraris, Alfas, Lambos, and the sort, so AMG just was another marque he could import and sell for customers who pay up front and gladly wait a long time.

Once he brought a few in, he got an "exclusive" with AMG in 1983/1984 or so; after that, every AMG that came from Affalterbach was supposed to go through him. So if AMG West ordered a car, it was Buxbaum and Classic Motors that would do the paperwork into the US - a portal of sorts. In addition, he was the exclusive parts supplier for AMG stuff for the US. The AMG West, AMG of Illinois, etc. were all individuals who bought/sold AMGs, AMG parts, and doing installations with authorization from Buxbaum at AMG of North America.

In 1990, he said he got a cease and desist letter from AMG; they revoked his "exclusivity" and the AMG lawyers would go from supplier to supplier forcing them to destroy their molds right on the spot. When AMG of NA stopped selling parts and stopped importing cars, all the indy AMG shops closed up behind him. Shortly after, MB bought AMG. Buxbaum was pissed that the letter made him stop, but he was more pissed that AMG never gave him an explanation.

B-McD · 06-02-2006, 06:03 AM

Do you have any pics and specific problems?

ussun · 06-02-2006, 03:35 PM

Here are some pics of my 1973 450 SLC AMG the day I bought her, I'm going to slowly start on her restorations. I'm counting on your help as it goes along.
Thanks

ussun · 06-02-2006, 03:41 PM

just became a member of the mercedes "amg private lounge" but they dont have any classic car that ive found yet.

Update 1/31/09
AMG Private Lounge now does have a Classic AMG Subject Tread.

Here some more AMG History that I found on the internet;

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Some more AMG History that I found on the inernet;

The Early History of Mercedes-Benz AMG
28 Oct, 2008 AMG Articles, AMG-History

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It is rather well known that Hans-Werner Aufrecht (A) and his partner Erhard Melcher (M) founded AMG in 1967 at Aufrecht's birthplace of Grossaspach (G); hence the name, "AMG." What is not as well known is their early history and the humble beginnings of AMG.

Back in the mid-1960s, there were two guys with a small garage in an old mill that were building engines for fast cars, really fast cars. When these two guys acted on their urge they spawned one of today's largest suppliers of exclusive high-performance cars. The two guys were Hans-Werner Aufrecht and Erhard Melcher, the founders of AMG Motorenbau und Entwicklungsgesellschaft mbH (AMG Engine Production and Development, Ltd.). Thankfully, the company name was later shortened to AMG.

Aufrecht and Melcher started in 1965 by preparing a racing engine for Manfred Schiek's 300SE. Two years later, the owners officially founded the company and began their humble beginnings in the "Old Mill" in Burgstall, Germany.

According to historical information provided by Mercedes-AMG, the first private customer of the new company was a Mercedes owner from Kiel. With a humble beginning there is always a good story. Here's the gist of the story going around today, which is said to be Friedrick Aufrecht's story. Friedrick is the brother of AMG co-founder, Hans-Werner.

A customer from Kiel, a town located on the northern border of Germany, is said to be the first private customer of the young Mercedes tuning company. As the story goes, he was in the paddock at a motor race when he got a hot tip. He was told about a garage in southwest Germany called AMG that could squeeze every last ounce of torque out of a Mercedes engine. This customer had a fondness for torque and he decided to visit the garage. After following the sketchy directions provided, he found himself in front of two tiny garage doors at an old mill. Garage doors so small, in fact, that he wasn't sure if his Mercedes would fit inside. Is this the right place he wondered? He ventured inside and observed a hand dug inspection pit in the middle of the garage. Now, he definitely wasn't sure if this was the right place so he asked, "Where can I find AMG?" The mechanics responded: "you are in the AMG garage."

Later on the customer from Kiel picked up his car and headed home. He was almost to Frankfurt when he turned around and drove back. The astonished mechanics couldn't believe it. Just three hours later their first private customer was already bringing his car back. To their disbelief, the customer drove all the way back to the garage to tell them personally how happy he was with the car. The mechanics were inspired and the AMG legacy began.

During the next three years AMG concentrated on building race cars based on the Mercedes-Benz 300SE sedan. They liked the Mercedes-Benz 300 models and some bad luck for a Mercedes owner turned out to be good luck for AMG. They got wind of a damaged 300 that was being sold by a doctor and they bought it. It was purchased for less than $6,000 at a time when new models were selling for $20,000.

The AMG mechanics enlarged the cylinder bores, modified the camshafts, intake manifold and several other components. By the time they were finished tinkering, their investment in labor and parts exceeded $100,000. They entered races and encountered major setbacks, but failure was not an option. They labored on and by 1971 the stage was almost set. All they needed was a driver for the 24-hour race at Spa, Belgium.

A few drivers turned down the offer to drive their Mercedes heavyweight, including then-recent Le Mans winner Gijsbert van Lennep. Finally, European Go-kart champions Hans Heyer and Clemens Schickentanz became available and AMG had their team. The team surprisingly achieved a class victory and finished second in the overall championship with their Mercedes-Benz 300SEL 6.8-liter AMG. The owners' persistence and passion had finally paid off for the small company and their success spread rapidly.

In the 1970s the company started offering high-performance tuning packages to Mercedes customers in Europe and other markets. Some Mercedes customers wanted individually customized vehicles and AMG met their needs as well. Like NASA, AMG was transferring technology. They took the lessons they learned on the racetrack and applied their knowledge to production cars. It was a smart and profitable move for AMG, which lead to a steady increase in orders and a solid reputation as the premiere Mercedes-Benz "tuner" in the world.

By 1978 the company had outgrown the old mill and the owners encountered another urge-relocate. They moved their operation to a larger facility in Affalterbach to better accommodate customers and a staff that had grown to 40 employees. Although the orders for production car modifications were rolling in, AMG never lost sight of their passion for motorsports.

In 1980 an AMG Mercedes 450SLC took first place in the European Touring Car Championship Grand Prix race at the Nürburgring. The subsequent AMG racing successes are far too many to list now. It suffices to say that they did well both on and off the track and the company continued to grow rapidly.

Just seven years after moving to Affalterbach, AMG built a second factory and hired their 100th employee. A significant turning point for AMG came five years later, in 1990, when the company signed a cooperation agreement with Daimler-Benz AG. With the agreement came a third factory, an increase in the workforce to 400 employees and plans for the sale of AMG products through Mercedes-Benz dealers located in overseas markets. Soon thereafter, AMG began preparation for the production and exportation of AMG cars to the U.S. market, which today is AMG's largest market.

The first "official AMG" car to reach the shores of America was the 1995 C36 AMG, although enthusiasts had privately imported gray market AMGs such as "The Hammer" much earlier. In 1999 DaimlerChrysler became the majority stakeholder in Mercedes-AMG GmbH. The market demand for AMG cars was high and production climbed from 500 to 20,000 cars per year by 2005 when DaimlerChrysler became the sole shareholder in Mercedes-AMG. Although many things changed during this time, the new owner's continued the tradition of building AMG engines using the "one man, one engine" philosophy that continues to this day.

By Greg Magnus, publisher of AMG Market | Mercedes-Benz Enthusiasts

B-McD · 06-02-2006, 05:47 PM

There wont be a classic area there. AMG back then was kind of like Brabus now. Not officially associated with MB, but the customer has a lot of choice as to what was put on their car.

page62 · 06-02-2006, 06:34 PM

Where are you located? Don't be afraid to tell us, we won't bite!

That is not a correct AMG logo for 1973, although I do see an AMG body kit. Does your car have a metal-spoke steering wheel?

As B-McD says, AMG back then was a set of a la carte options. It wasn't a distinct model as it is today.

ussun · 06-03-2006, 12:09 PM

Yes it does. It's a Nardi. But it was even better back then. And AMG approved the VIN # completely. I'm in NY. I don't know about the badge.

ussun · 06-03-2006, 12:31 PM

Some Info on 450 sl that I've been looking for slc's some time, so I'm adding it here with thanks to isthisdave, till i find the info for slc's:

Production for the 450SL model from March 1971 until November 1980 was:

1971................2,131 units
1972................7,473 units
1973................8,654 units(first US prod.)
1974................6,093 units
1975................6.011 units
1976................6,625 units
1977................8,110 units
1978................7,434 units
1979................8,184 units
1980................5,583 units

Specifications

Engine type........V-8 cyl overhead camshaft(M117)
Bore and stroke....92 x85mm(3.62 x 3.35 in)
Displacement.......4520 cc(275.8 cu in)
Power output.......225 hp(DIN) @5000 rpm(250 hp SAE); U.S.: 230 hp SAE @5000 rpm(200 DIN)later, 190 hp SAE @4750 rpm; 1975 California: 180 hp SAE; 1977: 217 hp(DIN); 1979: 218 hp(DIN) U.S.1977: 180 hp(SAE) @ 4750 rpm; 1980: 160 hp(SAE) @ 4200 rpm
Compression ratio.....8.8:1 U.S.: 8:1
Torque.....38.5 mkg @ 3000 rpm(278.5 ft/lb); U.S.: 33.0 mkg @ 3000 rpm(238.8 ft/lb); 1975 California: 232 ft/lb U.S. 1977: 32.25 mkg @ 3000 rpm(220 ft/lb); 1980: 31.9 mkg @ 2500 rpm(230 ft/lb)
Fuel injection....Bosch electronic
Engine speed at 100km/hr...2865 rpm U.S.: 2700 rpm
Gear ratios....1......3.98:1
11......2.39:1
111......1.46:1
1V......1.00:1
U.S. Automatic..1.....2.31:1
11...1.46:1
111...1.00:1
Rear axle ratio....3.07 U.S.1979: 3.06; 1980 2.65
Chassis.....unit frame and body
Suspension..independent front and rear, double wishbone, diagonal-pivot swing axle
Brakes and area.....disc, front vented, rear solid, 278/279mm(10.9/11.0 in)
Wheelbase....2460mm(96.9 in) 1979: 2455mm(96.6 in)
Track front/rear..1452/1440mm(57.2/56.7 in)
Length....4380mm(172.4) U.S.: 182.3in(4630mm)
Height....1300mm(51.2 in)
Ground clearance..140mm(5.5 in)
Tires.....205/70VR 14
Turning circle...10.2 meters(33.5 ft)
Steering type and ratio...recirculating ball (3.0 turns);servo assisted 15.9:1
Weight.....1585 kg(3487 lbs); U.S.: 1718 kg(3780 lbs); 1977: 1730 kg(3815 lbs); 1979: 1695 kg(3740 lbs); 1980: 1700 kg(3750 lbs)
Maximum speed....215 km/hr(133.5 mph); 1977: 210 km/hr; U.S.: 200 km/hr( 124 mph)
Acceleration....8.5 sec 0-100 km/hr; 1979: 9.3 sec 0-100 km/hr; U.S.: 11 sec 0-100 km/hr
Fuel consumption...14.5 liters, super/100 km(16 mpg) (U.S.: no lead fuel); 1979: at 120 km/hr, 15.8 liters(15 mpg)
Fuel tank capacity....90 liters(23.8 gallons)

ussun · 06-03-2006, 01:07 PM

Just a comment for you all ..Forget how this car looks from the out side.. it runs..HOT HOT HOT!!!

B-McD · 06-03-2006, 03:31 PM

It looks great. So what kind of restoration were you doing?