On The Ambiguity Of The Founders

[Qubes]

Originally Posted by DP

People, the moment we decided to have a police force and a military organization we have given up the right to defend ourselves with our own arms.
It's simple, you want weapons, revert back to a lifestyle of yesteryear. You want peaceful slavery; surrender your arms, live by the code of law and let the police do the protection and the military safeguard our fake freedoms.
Which way do you want to go? It sure ain't gonna be both ways fools

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

[DP]

Originally Posted by Qubes

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

No me, I got the TV remote, beer and the Internetz for fapping
Ah the gentle life of fake freedoms

[footloose]

Originally Posted by DP

No me, I got the TV remote, beer and the Internetz for fapping
Ah the gentle life of fake freedoms

What kind of freedoms do you desire?
Which ones do you lack?

[GermanStar]

Open air basement.

[DP]

Originally Posted by electramic

What kind of freedoms do you desire?
Which ones do you lack?

I want my MTV, beer and wrestling and above all all of my guns should be exempt from government hands.
I want my kids to thank Jesus in class, plainly and without retribution and humiliation. I want them to have the freedom to tell others about God and why they should obey him without hindrance from their teacher during class time. Gods words are above all humankind and that should be the crux of our freedom and the roots upon which our nation should seek the glory of the Almighty in heaven.

[MsPPH]

Yep. Good thing the militia prevented the establishment of a standing army in the U.S.

[footloose]

Originally Posted by DP

I want my MTV, beer and wrestling and above all all of my guns should be exempt from government hands.
I want my kids to thank Jesus in class, plainly and without retribution and humiliation. I want them to have the freedom to tell others about God and why they should obey him without hindrance from their teacher during class time. Gods words are above all humankind and that should be the crux of our freedom and the roots upon which our nation should seek the glory of the Almighty in heaven.

Do you feel that you have been deprived of any of the above?
Freedom of religion also means freedom from religion to some folks in this society. Is that OK with you?

[Qubes]

Originally Posted by MsPPH

Yep. Good thing the militia prevented the establishment of a standing army in the U.S.

There's a distinction to be made between defending one's nation from outside foes, and defending one's self from their nation.

[cmitch]

Originally Posted by GermanStar

You just did. 5000 years ago, it was the right to bear clubs. Or was it the right to club bears?

Club seals. Or go clubbing with seals. I once bought a Navy Seal a drink. Does that count?

[GermanStar]

As long as it was at a club.