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Does the NRA agree with Wayne LaPierre?

Posted by Scott Clement on January 31, 2013 at 9:57 am

In Senate testimony Wednesday, the National Rifle Association’s Wayne LaPierre drew a hard line against expanding background checks for gun purchases, a position new polls show may go against the views of most members of his own organization.

Numerous polls show the vast majority of Americans support requiring background checks for all gun sales, including gun shows. But two polls released this month shed rare light on the views of NRA members on the issue.

Nearly three quarters (74 percent) of NRA members supported requiring a background check system for all gun sales, according to a poll released Monday by Johns Hopkins University’s Bloomberg School of Public Health. The survey found 89 percent of all Americans support the proposal. (The Johns Hopkins program has received financial support, and is named after, New York City mayor and gun control advocate Michael Bloomberg.)

While the poll’s sub-sample of NRA members included only 169 completed interviews and a seven-point margin of sampling error, it corroborates a New York Times/CBS News poll this month that found an 85 percent majority of people in households with an NRA member supporting universal background checks.

There are few available surveys tracking attitudes of NRA members, and at around 2 percent of the adult population few surveys even ask about membership and would rarely complete enough interviews to report accurately.

Given its access to contact information, the NRA itself is best positioned to poll its own members. The group released a poll last Thursday showing stark opposition to an assault weapons ban and bans on high-capacity clips. But the poll asked no questions about making background checks universal, an area where Vice President Biden had sensed an emerging consensus.

The Hopkins study did find that NRA members share their leadership’s concern over a more burdensome background check process. While not a part of President Obama’s proposals, fewer than half of NRA members supported allowing up to five business days to complete a background check. By contrast, strong majorities of gun owners overall (67 percent) as well as non-gun owners (80 percent) supported the idea.

At the hearing, LaPierre argued that “background checks will never be universal because criminals will never submit to them.” Calling the current system a failure, he lamented that an expanded system will result in an enormous federal bureaucracy that “all of the little people in the country will have to go through it, pay the fees, pay the taxes.”

The Johns Hopkins poll was conducted online Jan. 2-14 among 2,703 adults through GfK Knowledge Networks, an Internet panel that recruits respondents randomly via mail and telephone. The margin of sampling error for the full sample was 1.9 percentage points. The error margin is seven points for the sample of 169 NRA members. The NYT/CBS survey was conducted by telephone from Jan. 11-14 among a random national sample of 1,110 adults, and carried a three-point error margin. Eleven percent of respondents said they or another household member belongs to the NRA.
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The NRA Enemies List: AARP to YMCA to Britney Spears to Hallmark Cards

by Abby Zimet

Wow. Recently surfaced is a list published last year by the NRA of hundreds of allegedly "anti-gun" organizations, celebrities, journalists and corporations who have "lent monetary, grassroots or some other type of direct support" to the radical evil overlords who would rob us of our assault rifes and thus our liberty. A number of the celebrities are in fact dead or otherwise a decade or so removed from the limelight, but no matter: You never know when Jill Clayburgh will return from the next life to seize your semi-automatics. Among them: The American Medical Association, American Academy of Pediatrics, American Nurses Association, American Firearms Association (say what?), Consumer Federation of America, National Association of Chain Drug Stores, U.S. Catholic Conference, YMCA, Tony Bennett, N Sync, The Temptations, Geraldo, Blue Cross Blue Shield, Levi Strauss, Kansas City Chiefs, Time Warner, etc etc. Man, the NRA's world must be getting some lonesome. Scary.

Here's the entire list:

Ambulatory Pediatric Association
American Academy of Pediatrics
American Civil Liberties Union
American Academy of Ambulatory Care Nursing
American Medical Women`s Association
American Medical Student Association
American Medical Association
American Association for the Surgery of Trauma
American Trauma Society
American Federation of Teachers
American Association of School Administrators
American Alliance for Rights and Responsibilities
American Medical Association
American Bar Association
American Counseling Association
American Academy of Child & Adolescent Psychiatry
American Academy of Pediatrics
American Association for World Health
American Ethical Union
American Nurses Association
American Association of Neurological Surgeons
American Association of Family and Consumer Sciences
American Firearms Association
American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
American Jewish Committee
American Trauma Society
American Psychological Association
American Jewish Congress
American Public Health Association
Americans for Democratic Action
Anti-Defamation League
Black Mental Health Alliance
B`nai B`rith
Central Conference of American Rabbis
Children`s Defense Fund
Church of the Brethren
Coalition for Peace Action
Coalition to Stop Gun Violence
College Democrats of America
Committee for the Study of Handgun Misuse & World Peace
Common Cause
Congress of National Black Churches, Inc.
Congress of Neurological Surgeons
Consumer Federation of America
Council of the Great City Schools
Council of Chief State School Officers
Dehere Foundation
Disarm Educational Fund
Environmental Action Foundation
Episcopal Church-Washington Office
Florence and John Shumann Foundation
Friends Committee on National Legislation
General Federation of Women`s Clubs
George Gund Fun
Gray Panthers
H.M. Strong Foundation
Harris Foundation
Hechinger Foundation
Interfaith Neighbors
Int`l Ladies` Garment Workers` Union
Int`l Association of Educators for World Peace
Jewish Labor Committee
Joyce Foundation
Lauder Foundation
Lawrence Foundation
League of Women Voters of the United States*
Lutheran Office for Governmental Affairs, Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
Manhattan Project II
Mennonite Central Committee-Washington Office
National Safe Kids Campaign
National Association of Police Organizations
National Coalition Against Domestic Violence
National Black Nurses` Association
National Association of Chain Drug Stores
National Network for Youth
National Assembly of National Voluntary Health & Social Welfare Organizations
National Association for the Advancement of Colored People
National Association of School Psychologists
National Association of Counties*
National Association of Pediatric Nurse Associates & Practitioners
National Association of School Safety and Law Enforcement Officers
National Education Association
National Association of Elementary School Principals*
National Association of Public Hospitals
National Coalition Against Domestic Violence
National Association of Secondary School Principals
National Association of Social Workers
National Association of Children`s Hospitals and Related Institutions
National Association of School Psychologists
National Council of La Raza
National Center to Rehabilitate Violent Youth
National Commission for Economic Conversion & Disarmament
National Council of the Churches of Christ in the USA
National Council of Negro Women
National Association of Community Health Centers
National People`s Action
National Education Association*
National League of Cities
National Council on Family Relations
National Council of Jewish Women
National Organization for Women
National Political Congress of Black Women
National Parks and Conservation Association
National Peace Foundation
National Urban League, Inc.
National Parent, Teachers Association*
National Urban Coalition
National SAFE KIDS Campaign
National Organization on Disability
National Spinal Cord Injury Association
NETWORK: A National Catholic Social Justice Lobby
Ortenberg Foundation
Peace Action
People for the American Way
Physicians for Social Responsibility
Police Foundation
Project on Demilitarization and Democracy
Public Citizen
Society of Critical Care Medicine
Southern Christian Leadership Conference
The Council of the Great City Schools
The Synergetic Society
20/20 Vision
U.S. Catholic Conference, Dept. of Social Development
Union of American Hebrew Congregations
Unitarian Universalist Association
United States Catholic Conference
United Methodist Church, General Board & Church Society
United Church of Christ, Office for Church in Society*
United States Conference of Mayors
War and Peace Foundation
Women Strike for Peace
Women`s National Democratic Club
Women`s Action for New Directions (WAND)
Women`s Int`l League for Peace and Freedom
World Spiritual Assembly, Inc.
YWCA of the U.S.A.

*The national organization only endorses federal legislation.

Anti-Gun Individuals & Celebrities

The following celebrities and national figures have lent their name and notoriety to anti-gun causes, speaking out for anti-gun legislation and providing a voice for anti-gun organizations.

Krista Allen - Actress

Suzy Amis - Actress

Louis Anderson - Comedian

Richard Dean Anderson - Actor

Maya Angelou - Poet

David Arquette - Actor

Ed Asner - Actor

Alec Baldwin - Actor

Bob Barker - TV Personality

Carol Bayer Sager - Composer

Drew Barrymore - Actress

Kevin Bacon - Actor

Lauren Bacall - Actress*

Sarah Ban Breathnach - Writer

William Baldwin - Actor

Candice Bergen - Actress

Richard Belzer - Actor

Tony Bennett - Singer

Boys II Men - Pop Group

Jon Bon Jovi - Singer

Peter Bogdonovich - Director

Peter Bonerz - Actor

Albert Brooks - Actor

Beau Bridges - Actor

Benjamin Bratt - Actor

Bonnie Bruckheimer - Movie Producer

Christie Brinkley - Model

Dr. Joyce Brothers - Psychologist/Author

James Brolin - Actor

James Brooks - TV Producer

Mel Brooks - Actor/Director

Betty Buckley - Actress

Ellen Burstyn - Actress

Steve Buscemi - Actor

David Canary - Actor

Kate Capshaw - Actress

Kim Cattrall- Actress

Josh Charles - Actor

Robert Chartloff - Producer

Stockard Channing - Actress

Jill Clayburgh - Actress

Terri Clark - Singer

George Clooney - Actor

Jennifer Connelly - Actress

Judy Collins - Singer

Kevin Costner - Actor

Sean Connery - Actor

Sheryl Crow - Singer

Billy Crystal- Actor

Julie Cypher - Director

Arlene Dahl - Actress

Clive Davis - Writer

Linda Dano - Actress

Matt Damon - Actor

Pam Dawber - Actress

Patrika Darbo - Actress

Stuart Damon - Actor

Ellen Degeneres - Actress

Gavin de Becker - Writer

Rebecca DeMornay - Actress

Danny DeVito - Actor

Michael Douglas - Actor

Phil Donahue - Talk Show Host

Richard Donner - Director

Fran Drescher - Actress

Richard Dreyfus - Actor

David Duchovny - Actor

Sandy Duncan - Actress

Christine Ebersole - Actress

Kenneth "Babyface" Edmonds - Singer

Missy Elliott - Singer

Nora Ephron - Director

Gloria Estefan - Singer

Melissa Etheridge - Singer

Mia Farrow - Actress

Mike Farrell - Actor

Carrie Fisher - Actress

Sally Field - Actress

Doug Flutie - NFL player

Fannie Flagg - Actress

Jane Fonda - Actress

Jodie Foster - Actress

Rick Fox - NBA Player

Andy Garcia - Actor

Art Garfunkel - Singer

Geraldo - TV personality

Richard Gere - Actor

Kathie Lee Gifford - TV personality

Paul Glaser - TV director

Brad Gooch - Writer

Elliott Gould - Actor

Louis Gossett, Jr. - Actor

Michael Gross - Actor

Nancy Lee Grahn - Actress

Bryant Gumbel - TV Personality

Deidra Hall - Actress

Ethan Hawke - Actor

Mariette Hartley - Actress

Mark Harmon - Actor

Anne Heche - Actress

Howard Hesseman - Actor

Marilu Henner - Actress

Dustin Hoffman - Actor

Hal Holbrook - Actor*

Helen Hunt - Actress

John Ingle - Actor

Francesca James - TV Producer

Norman Jewison - Director

Lainie Kazan - Actress

Richard Karn - Actor

Jeffrey Katzenberg - Producer

Barry Kemp - TV Producer

David E. Kelley - TV Producer

Diane Keaton - Actress

Margaret Kemp - Interior Designer

Chaka Khan - Singer

Kevin Kline - Actor

Michael E. Knight - Actor

Jonathan Kozol - Writer

Lenny Kravits - Singer

Lisa Kudrow - Actress

Wally Kurth - Actor

Christine Lahti - Actress

k.d. lang - Singer

Ricki Lake - TV personality

Denis Leary - Actor

John Leguizamo - Actor

Norman Lear - TV Producer

Spike Lee - Director

Hal Linden - Actor

Tara Lipinski - Former Olympian

Keyshawn Johnson - NFL player

Rob Lowe - Actor

Amanda Marshall - Singer

Barry Manilow - Singer

Camryn Manheim - Actress

Howie Mandel - Actor

Kyle MacLachlan - Actor

Madonna - Singer

Marla Maples - Actress

Marsha Mason - Actress*

Mase - Singer

Penny Marshall - Director

Prema Mathai-Davis - YWCA Official

John McDaniel - Musician

John McEnroe - Athlete

Brian McKnight - Musician

Natalie Merchant - Singer

Bette Midler - Singer

Mary Tyler Moore - Actress

Michael Moore - Film Maker

Mike Myers - Actor

N Sync - Music group

Kathy Najimy - Actress

Jack Nicholson - Actor

Leonard Nimoy - Actor

Mike Nichols - Director

Stephen Nichols - Actor

Rosie O`Donnel l- Actress/Talk Show Host

Jennifer O Neill - Actress

Julia Ormond - Actress

Jane Pauley - TV Personality

Sarah Jessica Parker - Actress

Mandy Patinkin - Actor

Richard North Patterson - Writer

Rhea Perlman- Actress

Michelle Pfieffer - Actress

Aidan Quinn - Actor

Colin Quinn - Actor

Dennis Quaid - Actor

Elizabeth Bracco Quinn - Actress

Bonnie Raitt - Singer

Debbie Reynolds - Actress

Mary Lou Retton - Former Olympian

Paul Reiser - Actor

Peter Reckell - Actor

Rob Reiner - Actor/Director

Robert Redford - Actor/Director

Anne Rice - Writer

Cathy Rigby - Actress

Julia Roberts - Actress

Marc Rosen - TV Producer

Tim Robbins - Actor

Tim Roth - Actor

Renee Russo - Actress

Robin Ruzan - Wife of Mike Myers

Meg Ryan - Actress

Susan Sarandon - Actress

Jerry Seinfeld - Actor

Kyra Sedgwick - Actress

Martin Sheen - Actor

Russell Simmons - Record Producer

Neil Simon - Playwright*

Louise Sorel - Actress

Mira Sorvino - Actress

Rena Sofer - Actress

Britney Spears - Singer

Bruce Springsteen - Singer

Kevin Spirtas - Actor

Barbra Streisand - Singer

David Steinberg - Director

Sylvester Stallone - Actor

Harry Dean Stanton - Actor

Meryl Streep - Actress

Patrick Stewart - Actor

Sharon Stone - Actress

Sting - Singer

Trudie Styler - Actress

Jonathan Taylor Thomas - Actor

The Temptations - Pop Group

Vinny Testaverde - NFL player

Marlo Thomas - Actress*

Uma Thurman - Actress

Steve Tisch - Producer

Mike Torrez - Former Baseball player

Shania Twain - Singer

Dick Van Dyke - Actor

Eli Wallach - Actor*

Harvey Weinstein - Producer

Jann Wenner - Publisher

Sigourney Weaver - Actress

Victor Webster - Actor

Andy Williams - Singer*

Kelli Williams - Actress

Henry Winkler - Actor

Oprah Winfrey - Entertainer

Rita Wilson - Actress

Vanessa Williams - Singer

Herman Wouk - Author

Joanne Woodward - Actress*

Peter Yarrow - Singer

Catherine Zeta-Jones - Actress

Ahmet Zappa -Actor

Diva Zappa -Actress

Dweezil Zappa - Musician

Gail Zappa -

Moon Zappa -Actress

* Denotes membership on

Brady Campaign`s National Committee

National Figures:

Joel J. Alpert M.D. - Pediatrician

Robert Bernstein Ph.D - Pediatrician

Robert E. Brennan - Financier

Bishop Edmond Browning - Espiscopal Leader

James E. Carter - Former President

Marion Wright Edelman - Director, Childrens Defense Fund

Michael Eisner, Former Chairman and CEO The Walt Disney Company

Amitai Etzioni - Teacher

Tom Freston - MTV President

Dr. Lorraine E. Hale - Social Worker

Della M. Hughes - Activist

Ed Koch - Former Politician

C. Everett Koop - Former Surgeon General

Rev. Wallace Ryan Kuroiwa - Clergyman

Gerald M. Levin - Chairman, Time Warner

Davis S. Liederman - Ex. Dir. Child Welfare League

Paul Rabbi Menitaff - Clergyman

Abner Mikva - Former Judge

Richard Parsons - Pres. Time Warner

Steven Rockefeller - Financier

Ellen Y. Rosenberg - Activist

Rabbi David Saperstein - Clergyman

Herb Scannell - Pres. Nickelodeon

Vincent Schiraldi - Dir. Justice Policy Institute

Lyle Elmer Strom - Federal Judge

Joe Volk - Clergyman

Rabbi Eric H. Yoffie - Clergyman

Lots more at the link
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WASHINGTON (AP) — District of Columbia prosecutors received scores of emails from citizens upset because NBC television journalist David Gregory was not criminally charged for displaying a high-capacity ammunition magazine on his "Meet the Press" show.

Prosecutors received roughly 50 emails demanding that Gregory be charged, plus more than 150 others expressing outrage in the days after officials decided to not prosecute him. The Associated Press obtained the messages through a public records request.

The emails were sent by people from around the country, including some self-identified gun owners and Second Amendment supporters, who accused prosecutors of hypocritically and unevenly enforcing D.C.'s strict gun laws and of giving Gregory preferential treatment. Some said the decision underscored the absurdity of strict gun laws and set a bad legal precedent; others sarcastically asked if they'd be similarly shielded from prosecution if they brought ammunition magazines to the nation's capital.

The display of the ammunition magazine attracted immediate scrutiny, coming just more than a week after a gunman opened fire at an elementary school in Connecticut, killing 20 children and six adults, and presented a high-profile test for prosecutors about how to enforce strict municipal gun laws in the massacre's wake.

"Thank you for so publicly showing how the justice system in this country functions," Thomas D. Paton, of Burtchville, Mich., wrote D.C. Attorney General Irvin Nathan on the evening the opinion was announced.

"It is good to know that there is one set of laws for the common man, and a more lenient set of laws for the elite. Your decision to allow Mr. Gregory to flaunt the law your office has aggressively pursued in the past, by your own office's admission, then to publicly give him a pass on it, goes to show that justice is for sale in this country if you can afford it."

Paton, an engineering technician, said Friday that he decided to send the email to protest what he called an "obvious double standard" in the enforcement of the law.

Another email, sent by 42-year-old Chad Alberts of Boulder, Colo., carried a similar message. "In regards to the David Gregory case I am extremely disappointed to hear that the law only applies to 'some' in the city of Washington D.C. What ever happened to equality? I will be sure to stay away from your town in the future."

Alberts, who is self-employed, said Friday he didn't think the law on ammunition feeders should exist at all, but if it did, it should apply to everyone.

Emails: Decision on NBC host stirred response - Yahoo! News

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As gun laws debated, state Capitol welcomes firearms

Carrying guns on the Capitol campus has long been allowed in Olympia. It’s seldom discussed, rarely criticized and speaks volumes about the debate over gun control this session.

By Andrew Garber

Seattle Times Olympia bureau
OLYMPIA — For Rep. David Taylor, a gun is like an article of clothing. He wears it everywhere — even on the floor of the state House of Representatives.

“I’ve carried for so long that it’s second nature to me. It’s almost like, if for some reason I don’t have it with me, I feel like I’m missing my wallet,” said Taylor, a two-term Republican from Moxee, Yakima County.

What Taylor does is legal, and he’s not alone. Other state lawmakers say they, too, have carried concealed weapons on the Capitol campus and on the floor. In fact, Washington’s Capitol is one of the few in the country with no restrictions on firearms.

It’s part of the culture in Olympia, something that’s seldom discussed, rarely criticized and speaks volumes about the split between those who oppose most curbs on gun ownership and those pressing for gun-control legislation this session.

Over the years, the state Legislature has proved a friendly place for gun rights. A majority of Washington state lawmakers get high marks from the National Rifle Association, the nation’s dominant pro-gun lobby, according to Project Vote Smart, a nonprofit, nonpartisan research group.

Yet in the aftermath of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shootings in Connecticut in December, gun-rights advocates are having to play defense.

Several bills have been introduced this session to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and the mentally ill. In addition, Senate Democratic Leader Ed Murray wants to ban assault weapons, and Gov. Jay Inslee, also a Democrat, supports some gun-control measures.

Gun-control proponents have hopes for House Bill 1588, which would require universal background checks for all firearms sales in the state. Currently, such checks are required only when buying a gun from a federally licensed dealer. Gun-show transactions and private sales are exempt.

The bill’s sponsor, Rep. Jamie Pedersen, D-Seattle, calls it the “lowest-hanging fruit” when it comes to gun control.

Ralph Fascitelli, president of Washington CeaseFire, thinks the measure has a good chance of making it at least through the House, which is controlled by Democrats.

“The problem is in the Senate now,” he said, noting it’s controlled by a Republican-led majority. Many of the members have strong NRA ties.

NRA rankings, however, suggest the House will be no pushover, either.

And there’s legislation coming from the other side, as well, including the Washington state Firearms Freedom Act, introduced by Taylor.

The bill says, in part, that any federal law, rule or order that is passed after Jan. 1, 2013, related to banning, registering semi-automatic firearms or magazines is unenforceable in Washington, he said.

Protest signs not allowed

Lawmakers have passed laws banning guns at courthouses, schools and bars, but they’ve never restricted the right to bear arms in the state Capitol.

When gun-rights supporters rallied in Olympia on Friday, a woman’s protest sign was confiscated when she tried to enter the statehouse, while a man carrying a rifle walked in with no problem. State officials said signs aren’t allowed because they take up too much room.

At least one lawmaker in the past apparently thought carrying a gun helped him get a bill passed.

In 1982, then-Sen. Kent Pullen debated gun laws on the floor with a Smith & Wesson semiautomatic jammed into his shoulder holster.

The Kent Republican, who died in 2003, was advocating a measure to allow gun owners to leave firearms in their cars.

Pullen later recounted that he told his fellow legislators he had no choice but to carry his gun until the measure passed. “I never saw a bill move so fast in my life,” he said.

The National Conference of State Legislatures in 2009 studied which state capitols had firearm restrictions.

Of the 42 states that responded to the survey, only Washington, Texas and Kentucky indicated they had no restrictions on carrying weapons at their capitols. Eight states allowed people with concealed-weapons permits on campus, and the rest restricted firearms to law-enforcement and security staff.

No one tracks how many Washington lawmakers carry guns, and concealed-weapon permits are kept private under state law.

However, in addition to Taylor, Reps. Mike Hope, R-Lake Stevens, and Christopher Hurst, D-Enumclaw, recently said they occasionally carry guns in the statehouse.

Anecdotally, lawmakers say there are many more legislators who carry concealed weapons.

Hope is a Seattle police officer and Hurst is a retired police detective.

Hurst, who spent 25 years in law enforcement, said he’s carried a weapon on the floor when “there were debates that were going to bring out people with such passions that there was enough of a concern.”

State Sen. Pam Roach, R-Auburn, said she has a concealed-weapons permit but does not carry a firearm at the Capitol. But Roach said she picked a desk on the Senate floor that’s beside a marble pillar, so she can duck behind it should anything happen.*

Hurst said that legislators who do carry guns should keep in mind they can become a target if they ever pull out their weapon in self-defense.

“Any legislator who is carrying a weapon should consider the possibility that displaying that weapon and coming in contact with a uniformed police officer who does not know them, might find themselves shot and killed almost immediately,” he said.

Hope agreed and said he’d like to see the Legislature ban guns on campus. “I would love to see it set up just like a courthouse, where we have to go through security in order to get to the chambers,” he said.

Rep. Ross Hunter, D-Medina, also sees no need for guns at the Capitol given that armed state troopers patrol the campus. He said he’d like to see a statehouse ban, but does not expect it.

“We have had agonizing discussions about whether we’re going to allow guns on the Capitol campus many times over the last 10 years, and we’ve never had enough votes,” Hunter said. “People get all hissy about it. It’s like one of these: ‘This is my right.’ ”

Universal background checks

All that said, Hunter and other lawmakers said this could be the year the Legislature passes a gun-control measure.

Hunter noted that Hope, who has an A-plus rating from the NRA, signed onto Pedersen’s bill for universal background checks.

“Everyone should support the bill,” Hope said. “It will impact those who are bent on committing crimes.”

It’s not clear yet if Hope is an exception among lawmakers with high marks from the NRA.

A majority in the chamber — 55 members — have a NRA rating of B or better, including House Majority Leader Pat Sullivan, D-Covington.

The NRA characterizes a B rating as “generally pro gun” and an A as “solidly pro gun.”

Sullivan has an A rating from the NRA and he embraced that distinction in an interview, saying he has a “strong Second Amendment position.”

Sullivan also said he has concerns about Pedersen’s background-check bill, which is scheduled for a hearing Wednesday. “I want to make sure that we’re solving the problem that’s actually the problem,” he said.

Taylor, for one, doesn’t like Pedersen’s bill.

“I firmly believe that if we want universal background checks, then we should be instead encouraging people to get a concealed-weapons permit,” said Taylor, noting that background checks are required to get a permit.

Likewise, Taylor said he had no problem with legislators exercising their right to carry a firearm.

“I encourage them to do so,” he said.

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