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Hoax phone call...

...leads to suicide of nurse. Well done Australia.

BBC News - Duchess of Cambridge hoax call nurse found dead

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Them Brits just can't take a joke!
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It's stupid to blame a prank call for a suicide. If thats all it takes, why not start a prank war and save billions on weapons?
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It's stupid to blame a prank call for a suicide. If thats all it takes, why not start a prank war and save billions on weapons?
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It's stupid to blame a prank call for a suicide. If thats all it takes, why not start a prank war and save billions on weapons?
The woman clearly had other issues, but I do think that anonymously pranking people while they're at their place of business is both asinine and irresponsible.
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The woman clearly had other issues, but I do think that anonymously pranking people while they're at their place of business is both asinine and irresponsible.
Really?

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It's stupid to blame a prank call for a suicide. If thats all it takes, why not start a prank war and save billions on weapons?
When you are directly responsible for starting a chain of events, you're responsible (at least morally) for the fallout, regardless whether you intend all of the results.

The further attenuated the result, the less the responsibility, but this is pretty direct. No, it's not normal for someone to kill oneself after a "prank" phone call, but the fact remains that she would be alive but for the simple fact that these bozos dreamed up and executed their plan.
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When you are directly responsible for starting a chain of events, you're responsible (at least morally) for the fallout, regardless whether you intend all of the results.

The further attenuated the result, the less the responsibility, but this is pretty direct. No, it's not normal for someone to kill oneself after a "prank" phone call, but the fact remains that she would be alive but for the simple fact that these bozos dreamed up and executed their plan.
Yes and no.

You may be partially responsible, but I think the idea that a radio hoax could prompt a suicide is beyond reasonable.

Heck, maybe he saved a life.

Maybe she was on the edge and without this push she would have done it in a way that took out several people.

Do we reward the hoaxster for the lives saved?
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Yes and no.

You may be partially responsible, but I think the idea that a radio hoax could prompt a suicide is beyond reasonable.

Heck, maybe he saved a life.

Maybe she was on the edge and without this push she would have done it in a way that took out several people.

Do we reward the hoaxster for the lives saved?
I'm not talking about legal responsibility, I'm talking about moral responsibility. Their prank started a course of events, some of which were foreseeable (people losing jobs, for example) and some of which were not. It doesn't change the fact that she would not be dead had they not done what they did.

You throwing out "maybes" from now until Sunday doesn't alter the simple facts. If you want to continue that path, maybe she would have saved hundreds of lives throughout her career, true? I'm focusing on the reality, not the postulations and permutations.
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My point is almost every action has almost unlimited untold consequences. Some
positive and some negative.

We have a habit as humans of drawing a straight line connecting some (particularly negative ones) while not even acknowledging many others.

I think that the chance for a suicide from the hoax was so "inconceivable" in advance that any moral responsibility is limited to their personal feeling of guilt and not the realm of any other person.

Using your logic, had the Duchess not gone to the hospital for a little "morning Sickness", she would also be alive, and therefore the Duchess shares the same blame.
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