What I want to know is how come we have two large bakeries in Sacramento making a profit? Both bakeries Sara Lee and Orowheat are owned by Groupo Bimbo. Hostess bakers make $20 an hour, Sara Lee make $22 and Orowheat $24. This doesn’t include the benefit package which is higher with Bimbo. Do you folks think that the possibility of better product, management and or executive compensation might be a factor?
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What I want to know is how come we have two large bakeries in Sacramento making a profit? Both bakeries Sara Lee and Orowheat are owned by Groupo Bimbo. Hostess bakers make $20 an hour, Sara Lee make $22 and Orowheat $24. This doesn’t include the benefit package which is higher with Bimbo. Do you folks think that the possibility of better product, management and or executive compensation might be a factor?
All of the above. Management is greedy, (as shown in my previous posts with the 300% raises for CEO and upper management). They want ALL the profits. Nothing can be said that hasn't been said before about the workers pay not causing a company to go under. The same was said about GM. GM made shit products and was too slow or too stupid to see the writing on the wall. So, they lost. Ford didn't lose. Same unions, same work. Different attitude and different "vision" for the products.
German car makers have great workers with unions and benefits and they make a good product at a profit.
Walmart can pay their workers more and still make a tremendous profit. It comes down to honesty and the integrity of management to make the decision to pay their workers a fair wage and still have a profitable company.
Anyone saying that a large company can't afford to pay their workers more is being disingenuous at the very minimum and greedy for sure!
All of the above. Management is greedy, (as shown in my previous posts with the 300% raises for CEO and upper management). They want ALL the profits. Nothing can be said that hasn't been said before about the workers pay not causing a company to go under. The same was said about GM. GM made shit products and was too slow or too stupid to see the writing on the wall. So, they lost. Ford didn't lose. Same unions, same work. Different attitude and different "vision" for the products.
German car makers have great workers with unions and benefits and they make a good product at a profit.
Walmart can pay their workers more and still make a tremendous profit. It comes down to honesty and the integrity of management to make the decision to pay their workers a fair wage and still have a profitable company.
Anyone saying that a large company can't afford to pay their workers more is being disingenuous at the very minimum and greedy for sure!
I heard that Costco pays a living wage? They seem to be doing all right.
No management will be happy until the employees are earning poverty wages and everything they can squeeze out of the workers pay, they put in their own salary package.
Hostess Brands Inc, the bankrupt maker of Twinkies, said on Tuesday that it failed to reach a deal in mediation with the Bakery, Confectionary, Tobacco and Grain Millers Union.
Yet it's no surprise that you are happy that more American workers have not gotten their jobs back.... yet!.
Beating off to workers having a difficult time is un-American.
But, you already knew that.
Yet it's no surprise that you are happy that more American workers have not gotten their jobs back.... yet!.
Beating off to workers having a difficult time is un-American.
But, you already knew that.
Ask yer union buddies what they think of the strikes.
Pure union on union fraticide, how's that for un-American ?
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The company cited a crippling strike that was started on Nov. 9 by the Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International (BCTGM) Union, which represents 30 percent of Hostess workers.
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Last Thursday, the Teamsters Union recommended that BCTGM vote by secret ballot over whether workers wanted to continue their strike.
The Teamsters said that the BCTGM members had previously voted "without complete information," with over 90 percent rejecting Hostess' contract offer.
"The BCTGM leaders are putting Teamster members in a horrible position – asking them to support a strike that will put them out of a job when they haven't even asked all their members to go on strike," the Teamsters said in a statement last week.
Ask yer union buddies what they think of the strikes.
Pure union on union fraticide, how's that for un-American ?
That is nothing compared to your 'rat comments and your totally racial bias on every thread you either enter, or start.
You're a disgusting withered old man who needs a wake up call. The only problem we have in this country is that there are more than one mlfun to skew reality into a foot race to the sewer.
"I really can't afford to not be working, but this is not worth it. I'd rather go work somewhere else or draw unemployment," said Johnson, a worker at Hostess for 23 years.
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The fear of thousands of job losses, for its own members and other unions, led the Teamsters to plead with the BCTGM to hold a secret ballot to determine if bakery workers really wanted to continue with the strike, even with the threat of closure.
Teamsters officials complained that bakery union leaders did "not substantively look for a solution or engage in the process," and complained that the BCTGM called for its strike on Nov. 9 without first notifying the Teamsters.
They said that, unlike the bakery union, the Teamsters voted to "protect all jobs at Hostess."
Teamsters General Secretary-Treasurer Ken Hall said Wednesday's court approval for liquidation marked "a sad day for thousands of families affected by the closing of this company."
Would you take a 50% pay cut, from your 2004 salary.
Say a drop from 50k to 25k?
I don't know the numbers but as a rough example.
Rubbing it in by awarding executives a 30% increase.
The CEO thinks he'll be better off with a golden handshake.
He'll move on to another company that wants wage cuts for the workers.
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