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Can't people see that BOTH parties, whether Democratic or Republican, have no issues spending our money and preventing our control of it? Damn!
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War of choice. Beyond contestation.

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Can't people see that BOTH parties, whether Democratic or Republican, have no issues spending our money and preventing our control of it? Damn!
It's as clear as the ears on OweBama's head...




Or it should be.............

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A war where the people who funded it see no gain what so ever, and in fact have seen only death, debt, and declining standard of living.
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A war where the people who funded it see no gain what so ever, and in fact have seen only death, debt, and declining standard of living.
Yes, but of course the people who orchestrated it saw plenty of opportunity for personal gain.

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Yes, but of course the people who orchestrated it saw plenty of opportunity for personal gain.
Since when is that unique?
It's happened from the first war, and it will only stop with the last war, whichever the last one might be.

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^Then why allow it if it is purely manipulative as you suggest?
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^Then why allow it if it is purely manipulative as you suggest?
How are you going to stop it?

It's rarely the 'people' that start a war, it's the politicians, or those in "charge" and very often they are not elected.

If Lil' Kimmy wants to fire off a missile over Japan, are you going to stop him? Who would you suggest that might stop him, it sure as heck isn't going to be the UN....

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How are you going to stop it?

It's rarely the 'people' that start a war, it's the politicians, or those in "charge" and very often they are not elected.

If Lil' Kimmy wants to fire off a missile over Japan, are you going to stop him? Who would you suggest that might stop him, it sure as heck isn't going to be the UN....
How about some North or even South Koreans who might be concerned about the results of Lil Kim's actions?

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War of choice. Beyond contestation.
Gestation preceding proclamation prevents castigation.

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