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heh, heh.....some interesting views! heh, heh......

The margin of Victory is so huge that if it was rigged it could not be hidden. It is time the opposition understood the meaning of Democracy.
Ahmed H Alloo, Dar es Salaam

Comments about the election coming from inside Iran are almost exclusively from people living in Tehran where Mousavi has a strong hold. To know who really won the election, one has to hear comments from both people in Tehran and in rural areas.
Just Curious, USA

George Bush... Al Gore...
Perhaps the Iranians were trying to follow the USA voting handbook?

James Stuart, Taos, NM USA

These demonstartors are trying to weaken the
new democracy in Iran and have a pro-West regime installed - same as Shah
IS SAD ... SIMPLY SAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Reza, Meshhad, Iran

I think the Iranians have made their choice though the West would have wished otherwise. Democracy does not mean a west favoured candidate wins. The West must learn that the ideals they hold dear are not held in the same way by others. The elections would have been fair if the oposition won and the same principle is applied in Africa. Elections are only fair if the west backed opposition wins.
Lets respect the will of others. Lebanon elections were fair because the christian party won.

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I have travelled to rural and urban I Iran and know it is a diverse and beautiful country, and its people are as warm and hospitable as any I have met. They have been bullied by foreign powers for much of the past century and have stood up. The question of who really won is yes, important, but what is clear is that there are big groups supporting both President Ahmadinejad and Mr Mousavi. The challenge Iran has is living peacefully with its own internal diversity. I wish it well.
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Twitter streams break Iran news dam

By Glenn Chapman – 15 hours ago

SAN FRANCISCO (AFP) — Protestors in Iran used Twitter for battle cries and to spread the word about clashes with police and hardline supporters of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Messages posted on the micro-blogging service, some with links to pictures, streamed from Iran despite reported efforts by authorities there to block news of protests over Ahmadinejad's claim of having been fairly re-elected.

Pictures of wounded or dead people that senders claim were Iranian protestors ricocheted about Twitter and wound up posted at online photo-sharing websites such as Flickr as well as on YouTube.

A protestor was reportedly shot dead during clashes in Tehran as massive crowds of people defied a ban to stage a rally against the disputed re-election of Ahmadinejad.

The trouble flared after Ahmadinejad's defeated rival Mir Hossein Mousavi appeared in public for the first time since an election that has sharply divided the nation and triggered protests and rioting.

"Iranelection" was the top Twitter trend of the day, and a message thread led by "Persiankiwi" appeared to be orchestrating hacker attacks on official Iran websites while firing off updates on developments in the streets.

"We are also moving location -- too long here -- is dangerous," Persiankiwi tweeted mid-day Monday.

A subsequent Persiankiwi tweet read: "Attacked in streets by mob on motorbikes with batons -- firing guns into air -- street fires all over town -- roads closed."

Twitter users were also slamming mainstream media outlets for not covering the Iranian election aftermath more intensely.

A "CNNfail" thread at US-based Twitter critiqued the cable news network's coverage throughout the weekend.

"This is all seriously power to the people, in more ways than one," a Twitter member using the screen name "kianarama" tweeted.

Twitter was being used as an international command center by people intent on keeping news from Iran flowing at online social-networking services.

Users shared lists of proxy computer servers that could be used to sidestep Internet traffic blocks in Iran.

Twitter has delayed plans to temporarily shut down the service late Monday for "critical" maintenance, saying its role in sharing news from Iran is too important to interrupt.

"Our network host had planned this upgrade for tonight," Twitter founder Biz Stone said Monday in a message to users.

"However, our network partners at NTT America recognize the role Twitter is currently playing as an important communication tool in Iran."

Taking Twitter offline for an hour for maintenance was postponed until Tuesday afternoon, according to Stone.

"In the end, as long as there is a way to communicate at all there is always a way to make messages move and get them out to the broader world," said Erik Hersman, who co-founded "crowd-sourcing" mobile telephone platform Ushadidi in Kenya last year.

"There is always a way to make messages move and get them out to the broader world. Of all the mediums, SMS is just the lowest barrier to entry and the easiest to propagate."

Twitter users can text messages of no more than 140 characters to unlimited numbers of mobile telephones. Tweets can also be read online at Twitter.com.

"Nonviolent resistance movements are typically driven by students, young people who are increasingly born digital natives," Ushadidi board member Patrick Meier wrote in a presentation posted online at iRevolution.

"Resistance movements are likely to make even more use of new communication technology and digital media in the future. At the same time, however, the likelihood and consequences of getting caught are high."

Meier explained ways that Internet-age technology-prone revolutionaries can reduce risks of exposure in a presentation titled "How To Communicate Securely in Repressive Environments."

"Organizational hierarchies are being broken down as youth adopt new technologies," Meier said.

"Political activists need to realize that their regimes are becoming smarter and more effective, not dumber and hardly clueless."

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'Mass opposition rally' in Tehran

BBC NEWS Tuesday, 16 June 2009
'Mass opposition rally' in Tehran

Iran clamps down on foreign media

Supporters of Iran's defeated presidential candidate are again staging a mass rally in northern Tehran, witnesses have told the BBC.

It comes despite Mir Hossein Mousavi's urging his supporters not to risk clashes with demonstrators backing President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Supporters of Mr Ahmadinejad earlier held a rally in central Tehran.

Tough new restrictions on the foreign media mean the BBC is unable to confirm reports of the Mousavi rally.

The new restrictions have been imposed amid apparent surprise and concern among authorities at the scale of popular defiance over Friday's official election results, correspondents say.

Anger at the official result saw hundreds of thousands of Mousevi supporters take to the streets on Monday, alleging fraud in the poll which returned Mr Ahmadinejad to office.

'Bussed in'

Correspondents say crowds the size of those at Monday's opposition rally have not been seen in Tehran since the 1979 revolution.

An eyewitness told the BBC Tuesday's rally was even bigger than Monday's - though this cannot be independently confirmed.

It is being held in northern Tehran - an opposition stronghold.

Thousands of supporters of President Ahmadinejad staged their own rally in Vali Asr Square in central Tehran - some bussed in from the provinces, correspondents say.

The latest opposition rally comes despite a Mousavi spokesman urging supporters not to take part in another demonstration on Tuesday, amid fears of new violence.

Hospital officials say eight people died in violence which erupted at the end of rally - which authorities blamed on "thugs".
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