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Let's pause and remember D Day

Thank you brave soldiers on ALL sides for fighting for what you believed in or if you were simply taking orders. On days like this we learn how precious life is and above all how freedom is what those extinguished lives were all about.
Let's respect all sides and hope that no more insanities will drive us to face each other in battle.
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Amen! As a veteran, and nephew of two D-Day participants, let's honor those who sacrificed, and died for freedom's sake! Both of those uncles died last year, out of four WWII uncles, I now only have one living. He was with Patton during D-Day. These men are/were true heroes and we're losing them everyday!
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My wife's uncle was at D-Day. His brother had died in the Pacific Islands Campaign and is buried on some island somewhere. The uncle who landed at Normandy got a huge souvenir, it ran from his left buttock to his right shoulder. Looked like a plow line.

Colin Powell's comment on a different war is appropriate for all modern American wars: The United States believes strongly in what you call soft power, the value of democracy, the value of the free economic system, the value of making sure that each citizen is free and free to pursue their own God-given ambitions and to use the talents that they were given by God. And that is what we say to the rest of the world. That is why we participated in establishing a community of democracy within the Western Hemisphere. It's why we participate in all of these great international organizations.

There is nothing in American experience or in American political life or in our culture that suggests we want to use hard power. But what we have found over the decades is that unless you do have hard power -- and here I think you're referring to military power -- then sometimes you are faced with situations that you can't deal with.

It was not soft power that freed Europe. It was hard power. And what followed immediately after hard power? Did the United States ask for dominion over a single nation in Europe? No. Soft power came in the Marshall Plan. Soft power came with American GIs who put their weapons down once the war was over and helped all those nations rebuild. We did the same thing in Japan.

So our record of living our values and letting our values be an inspiration to others I think is clear. And I don't think I have anything to be ashamed of or apologize for with respect to what America has done for the world.

We have gone forth from our shores repeatedly over the last hundred years and we’ve done this as recently as the last year in Afghanistan and put wonderful young men and women at risk, many of whom have lost their lives, and we have asked for nothing except enough ground to bury them in, and otherwise we have returned home to live our own lives in peace. But there comes a time when soft power or talking with evil will not work where, unfortunately, hard power is the only thing that works.

The biggest problems we are facing right now have to do with George Bush trying to bring more and more power into the executive branch and not go through Congress at all and thatís what I intend to reverse.

~ Senator Barack H. Obama
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So many vets of WWII are leaving us each day. Very soon there will be no one left who was a witness to this pivotal confilct.

Take the time to speak to our vets while they are still with us.

Take the time to listen to our vets. Hear their stories.

And most of all never, ever forget what they did for us, so that we could enjoy the freedoms that we so often take for granted.

Never forget.
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In celebration of D Day and all our Vets I’m cooking dinner tonight for my Lebanese father-in-law (Texas A&M summa cum laude cadet graduate) who was a mortar platoon leader of a band of sword-wielding Turkish fighters in the Korean War. The Turk scouts would go out at night behind enemy lines and call in coordinates to adjust the trajectory of the mortar. When they returned in the morning they always brought back scalps. They hated it when you asked them to show you their sword because by tradition they had to cut themselves before returning the sword to its sheath.

Don’t pull out your sword unless you intend to draw blood - it's a code.

We not only have our Vets to be thankful for but our Allies as well.


When devils will the blackest sins put on, they do suggest, at first with heavenly shows - Othello

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I was just watching a live 'D-day revisited' programme. On one hand heartening to see Brits and Americans shaking hands and joking with the very German gunners who strafed them as they came ashore on the beaches, but on the other hand highlighting the absurdity of war, particularly amongst those with such strong cultural ties.

Yesterday my youngest daughter was asking me about the American Civil War. Her face held an almost constant expression of incredulity as I summarised it for her.

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I was just watching a live 'D-day revisited' programme. On one hand heartening to see Brits and Americans shaking hands and joking with the very German gunners who strafed them as they came ashore on the beaches, but on the other hand highlighting the absurdity of war, particularly amongst those with such strong cultural ties.

Yesterday my youngest daughter was asking me about the American Civil War. Her face held an almost constant expression of incredulity as I summarised it for her.
More Americans died in our War Between the States than in WWI, WWII, and Korea combined.

The biggest problems we are facing right now have to do with George Bush trying to bring more and more power into the executive branch and not go through Congress at all and thatís what I intend to reverse.

~ Senator Barack H. Obama
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More Americans died in our War Between the States than in WWI, WWII, and Korea combined.

Another win for the Democratic liberties for all........
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Another win for the Democratic liberties for all........
You betcha.

Ironic that you cleverly capitalized the word, "Democratic." FYI, the Democrat Party was on the Confederate side of the War Between the States.

As JFK so eloquently and correctly stated: Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.

This much we pledge‚ÄĒand more.



But do remember the butcher's bill.

It costs our country over 600,000 lives.

The biggest problems we are facing right now have to do with George Bush trying to bring more and more power into the executive branch and not go through Congress at all and thatís what I intend to reverse.

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President Obama at Normandy today:
"At an hour of maximum danger, amid the bleakest of circumstances, men who thought themselves ordinary found it within themselves to do the extraordinary. They fought for their moms and sweethearts back home, for the fellow warriors they came to know as brothers. And they fought out of a simple sense of duty ‚Äď a duty sustained by the same ideals for which their countrymen had fought and bled for over two centuries."

The biggest problems we are facing right now have to do with George Bush trying to bring more and more power into the executive branch and not go through Congress at all and thatís what I intend to reverse.

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