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Worst president ever?

An interesting point of view.

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This must be some sort of Sexual Chocolate for you liberals.

Yawn...

Who's John Galt.

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Are you saying that the author of the article is wrong on all counts?

Reagan was not a saint, you know, even though right wingers would like to prove to everybody that he was.
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nice.. this should go over well.




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Well, considering a chunk of the NeoCons/NeoNeoCons/Republicans/Conservatives have been throwing Reagan under the bus as well as the rest in their attempt to "reinvent" themselves, I would expect that at least half the Right on this board would agree fully with the article.

I look at his Gramm/Kemp contributions as the most serious failings along with his issues with backdoor deals involving the Iran-Contra Affair and funding and training of Mujahideen in Afghanistan [and ultimately Osama bin Laden] during his Presidency.

On a more political basis, his administration was the petri dish from which the NeoConservative movement grew.

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Sounds about right to me, I never cared for Reagan. More gov't expanding, spending, bullshit.
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Are you saying that the author of the article is wrong on all counts?

Reagan was not a saint, you know, even though right wingers would like to prove to everybody that he was.
I would say that the Author has mischaracterized everything to make a political point.

I don't believe that our Presidents are infallible by any stretch. I think the author went out of his way to rewrite history though.

I mean I would think you guys would be all over this for the simple fact that he held up Nixon as an example of something to be strived for.

I think that Nixon's greatest crime was taking us off of the Gold Standard, not Watergate.

That just opened a huge hole for Congress to just do what they wanted with spending.

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I would say that the Author has mischaracterized everything to make a political point.

I don't believe that our Presidents are infallible by any stretch. I think the author went out of his way to rewrite history though.

I mean I would think you guys would be all over this for the simple fact that he held up Nixon as an example of something to be strived for.

I think that Nixon's greatest crime was taking us off of the Gold Standard, not Watergate.

That just opened a huge hole for Congress to just do what they wanted with spending.
There was more to Nixon's gold issue than just future issues. With a very large vietnam budget and reduced revenues we were also starting to run up very high inflation rates, combined with the start of the first energy crisis. Combine those with other currencies moving off of Bretton Woods and the formula for a very large inflation spike was brewing. Part of it came anyway but it "ONLY" hit in the 12% rate by the time Nixon left office. At the same time Unemployment was also rising to levels we had not seen in over a decade. There were a multitude of issues smacking Nixon, many of his making, some inherited.

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There was more to Nixon's gold issue than just future issues. With a very large vietnam budget and reduced revenues we were also starting to run up very high inflation rates, combined with the start of the first energy crisis. Combine those with other currencies moving off of Bretton Woods and the formula for a very large inflation spike was brewing. Part of it came anyway but it "ONLY" hit in the 12% rate by the time Nixon left office. At the same time Unemployment was also rising to levels we had not seen in over a decade. There were a multitude of issues smacking Nixon, many of his making, some inherited.
Fine. History is exactly that...history.

We should go back on the Gold Standard. Pure and simple. We wouldn't have the Drunken Sailor spending in Washington tjhat we have now. That is for sure and for certain.

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Fine. History is exactly that...history.

We should go back on the Gold Standard. Pure and simple. We wouldn't have the Drunken Sailor spending in Washington tjhat we have now. That is for sure and for certain.


At this point in time, how many countries could afford to go back to the Gold Standard?
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