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Of course basic training is different. Our culture is different. Why, I understand they can't beat the crap out of you anymore. My son-in-law is a trainer for the Army. E-7. I have relatives in each of the branches -- nephews. Officers & enlisted. Navy, Air Force & Army.

Perhaps we have a different definition of the word, "zealotry." I don't believe our kids are fanatics, do you?
don't confuse the concept of zealotry with fanaticism. They are two disparate concepts. Sometimes they overlap, sometimes they do not.

Read my original post again. At no point did I suggest fanaticism by our guys. Zealotry in highly trained, highly motivated troops, just out of boot, on the other hand is something that is a fact of life.

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Thank God we again have our faithful reporter to let us know each and every time a Muslim commits a crime. Each crime gets its own thread, too! Neat.

Now imagine if the shoe were on the other foot?
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What's up with that pic? The artist seems to have hate in his heart toward a great man.

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My choice of Muhammad to lead the world's most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular levels. . .
. . . it may initially seem strange that Muhammad has been ranked higher than Jesus. There are two principal reasons for that decision. First, Muhammad played a far more important role to the development of Islam than Jesus did in the development of Christianity. Although Jesus was responsible for the main ethical and moral precepts of Christianity (insofar as these differed from Judaism), St. Paul was the main developer of Christian theology, its principal proselytizer, and the author of a large portion of the New Testament.

Muhammad, however, was responsible for both the theology of Islam and its main ethical and moral principles. In addition he played a key role in proselytizing the new faith, and in establishing the religious practices of Islam. Moreover, he is the author of the Moslem holy scriptures, the Koran. [The Quran, Muslims believe, is the revealed Word of God.]

Furthermore, Muhammad (unlike Jesus) was a secular leader as well as a religious leader. In fact as the driving force behind the Arab conquests, he may well rank as the most influential political leader of all time. . . [When Muhammad died in 632, he was the effective leader of all of southern Arabia. By 711, Arab armies had swept completely across North Africa to the Atlantic Ocean. In a scant century of fighting, the Bedouin tribesmen, inspired by the word of the Prophet, had carved out an empire stretching from the borders of India to the Atlantic Ocean -- the largest empire that the world had yet seen.]

. . the Arab conquests of the seventh century have continued to play an important role in human history, down to the present day. It is this unparalleled combination of secular and religious influence which I feel entitles Muhammad to be considered the most influential single figure in human history.

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Thank God we again have our faithful reporter to let us know each and every time a Muslim commits a crime. Each crime gets its own thread, too! Neat.

Now imagine if the shoe were on the other foot?
Glad to see you stop in and toss some sand around in the sand box with us.

I wrote exactly this question in the thread about the murder of the abortion doctor - what would the tolerance for the crime be if the shoe was on the other foot - say, a Muslim dude killed some US citizen doing his job, that didn't break the law, because whatever that job was "drove him over the edge?" I didn't get much of a response then, but we see it here. All of the sudden the apologists for the murderer of the abortion doctor are very clear about how wrong the Muslim dude is. It is all very clear. Torture is ok if the Christians are doing the torturing. The mindset of a murderer is easily understood if the murderer is murdering to make some Biblical point, and in the name of Christ. That Christ wouldn't find either action acceptable is somehow lost in fervor.

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Wonder what this is?
No mention of the differences ! I am shocked !!
Perhaps he is reminding Muhammad that we understand and are not your enemies.



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No mention of the differences ! I am shocked !!
Perhaps he is reminding Muhammad that we understand and are not your enemies.
The key to good writing is to put sentences on the screen that others can actually understand.

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The differences between the typical Arkansas military recruit and a Muslim named Abdul Hakim Mujahid Muhammad are just as stark as the "profound differences as Americans in difficult issues such as abortion".

Muhammad is hardly the first Muslim to attack our military , therefore there is definitely a pattern to this crime.

And realize that this IS the first Muslim terrorist incident in the US for this administration, a fact which is totally downplayed.

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Muhammad, 23, has pleaded not guilty. He told police that he had "political and religious" motives for the shooting, according to court records.

"He was mad at the U.S. military because of what they had done to Muslims in the past," homicide detective Tommy Hudson said in a police report.

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Muhammad is being held on a state count of capital murder and 16 counts of engaging in a terrorist act by firing into an occupied building.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/06/04/...ef=mpstoryview

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What differences?
mcbear! You don't get it! The difference is a difference in perspective. In the first case the finger was being pointed at the likes of mlfun, and it made him uncomfortable. Now it is pointed away from him and he wants it to be a gun, and have the finger pull the trigger. It is late and you must be tired.

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