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Since nobody else has used the term yet, I'll go ahead and step in.





How amazingly tolerant!




Now that it's been said, I would just like to add that my views on abortion have NOTHING to do with religion or God or heaven & hell. And with this in mind, I think Dr. Tiller was a murderer - without question.

But you can't solve the problem by killing the guy. You have to get the laws changed to be consistent. Killing a baby can't be OK sometimes and not others. It's either acceptable/inconsequential, or it isn't.
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What is that have to do with guns? Are you trying to move this discussion into another plane?
If the suspect did not have access to a gun, the doctor would still be alive, wouldn't he ?
Or perhaps the gun control nuts really agree that guns don't kill, people do.

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And predictably, he paints the opposition in a negative light instead of pointing out that this is an individual act of violence.


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WASHINGTON (AFP) — President Barack Obama expressed outrage on Sunday at the fatal shooting of a controversial Kansas doctor who performed late-term abortions, in a statement released by the White House.

"I am shocked and outraged by the murder of Dr George Tiller as he attended church services this morning," said Obama.

"However profound our differences as Americans over difficult issues such as abortion, they cannot be resolved by heinous acts of violence."

AFP: Obama 'outraged' at abortion doctor murder

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And predictably, he paints the opposition in a negative light instead of pointing out that this is an individual act of violence.
He did? Where?

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If the suspect did not have access to a gun, the doctor would still be alive, wouldn't he ?
Or perhaps the gun control nuts really agree that guns don't kill, people do.
Bullshit, guns have nothing to do with this. He could have killed the doctore with a pipe bomb just like previous attempts.
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He did? Where?

Turned the statement around and added Cliff notes...

"Heinous acts (note the plurality) of violence cannot be used to resolve our profound differences as Americans over difficult issues such as abortion. (This murder is an instance of these acts of violence)"

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And predictably, he paints the opposition in a negative light instead of pointing out that this is an individual act of violence.
Where????
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Rephrasing the statement with Cliff notes...

"Heinous acts (note the plurality) of violence cannot be used to resolve our profound differences as Americans over difficult issues such as abortion. (This murder is an instance of these acts of violence)"
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Bullshit, guns have nothing to do with this. He could have killed the doctore with a pipe bomb just like previous attempts.
Sure, but not today, he would not have died if he had no gun.
No gun, no death.

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Turned the statement around and added Cliff notes...

"Heinous acts (note the plurality) of violence cannot be used to resolve our profound differences as Americans over difficult issues such as abortion. (This murder is an instance of these acts of violence)"
I still don't read this as a condemnation of any other than murderers. Please note that this is not the first murder of an abortion doc.

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