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Islam is a new comer if you care to check your history books. Before that the sons of Ishmael יִשְׁמָעֵאל and Isaac יִצְחָק got along just fine. Again, if you read your history books you might find out that they shared what is known as Saudi Arabia all the way down to Yemen.
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Hey drew...the horse is dead. I concede to the fact that you won't believe they way I do...ever. Perhaps you should do the same.
My concern is that though I may not agree with you, that you (or others like you) continue to try and force me to see things your way. I see Drew's analogy to the taliban.
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Again, as I said, the Taliban and other Muslim extremists share your views 100%. Don't you like that epiphany?
They don't share my views...I promise you that

I'm not a real dickhead...but I acted like one in high school.
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Most disappointing was the fact the AAA office for an international driver's license (mandatory in Austria) was down the alley from an abortion clinic in Dallas. As I drove slowly past a really cute hunk, and I was as amazed as anyone that anything good looking would be protesting abortion, came over to the Cadillac and offered to speak to me. I left the tinted window up and drove past. I'm sure if he is fucked up enough to get into all that then he surely won't even understand my sexual viewpoint.
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Most disappointing was the fact the AAA office for an international driver's license (mandatory in Austria) was down the alley from an abortion clinic in Dallas. As I drove slowly past a really cute hunk, and I was as amazed as anyone that anything good looking would be protesting abortion, came over to the Cadillac and offered to speak to me. I left the tinted window up and drove past. I'm sure if he is fucked up enough to get into all that then he surely won't even understand my sexual viewpoint.
Amen Shane!

My point is simply that, though I may not personally approve of the choices or beliefs of someone else, I still respect their ability to make their own choices.
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My concern is that though I may not agree with you, that you (or others like you) continue to try and force me to see things your way. I see Drew's analogy to the taliban.
Others like me? I generally stay out of debates concerning religion. I try not to force my views on others...just to get them to understand that there are views other than their own.

A person's belief in God/Jesus is very personal...one that should not be taken lightly.

I grew up with religion force fed to me from birth. It's the Southern Baptist way. And people think Catholics feel guilt? LOL

I read and study the Bible and live the best that I can. I'm not perfect at all. I know this. But I strive to be what He wants me to be.

I'm not a real dickhead...but I acted like one in high school.
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So, let's see where we have morphed in the past month. The New Testament makes the Old Testament just a collection of "guidelines", well, unless you read Matthew which says that all of the Old Testament is still in play.

And we have Man's Law and God's Law but conveniently that "god's law" thing always comes around to Christian God and somehow ignores all the other religions and their gods and all of their books and their rules, those that involve drinking or that include riches or that include sacrifice. Looking at the big four religions, I can understand why Christians might chose to follow the Bible, following Sharia Law would be a real bitch for most American Christians. It would involve actually FOLLOWING religious teaching, not just saying it.

So we are down to a somewhat limited subset of restrictions that allow zealots for our particular causes to act fully irrationally, break "man's law", kill [which breaks God's law] yet rationalize it because we have a belief that cushions that incongruity. We have parsed the laws of the God that we choose, pushing aside those that would make our lives uncomfortable or inconvenient yet keeping those that allow us to somehow feel that we have a moral high ground.

We get to keep our well paying jobs, even though those jobs might compromise some of "God's laws", we live in nice cozy homes in the 'burbs while others do all the hard lifting that is required after we draw those moral lines in the sand and we insure that we don't do more than is required to maintain faith.

Some read the Bible and toss aside some of those rules and lessons because they would interfere with their lifestyle or their political leanings. "Thou shalt not kill" and "Shock and Awe" make an interesting oxymoron.

The question was asked earlier about Which is to be obeyed...God's Law or Man's Law. Only one is codified. The other is full of compromise, rationalization, convenience and pick and choose options. We are a country of LAWS. Let's stick to that. If we do that correctly, those who believe in an afterlife will be covered.

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^ Fun outside interpretation, but wrong on most accounts.
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Hey drew...the horse is dead. I concede to the fact that you won't believe they way I do...ever. Perhaps you should do the same.
Is this your way at waving the flag instead of facing the truth that you have become?
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Oh yeah, teach me a thing or two about that subject. This is an open invitation for you to demonstrate that not only you are right but you have all the facts clearly lined up and verifiable. Give it a try... Don't chicken out with an excuse like jplinville or give background noise like aardvark.
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