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Panetta's Pelosi Smackdown

A truth too hot to handle.

Our guess is that Nancy Pelosi will come to regret her accusation on Thursday that CIA officials lied to her about their interrogation of terrorists. It took only a day for the agency to fire back, in the form of a statement from Director Leon Panetta, a Democrat, an Obama appointee and a long-time California Congressional colleague of the House Speaker.

"CIA officers briefed truthfully on the interrogation of Abu Zubaydah," Mr. Panetta wrote in a memo to agency employees. "It is not our policy or practice to mislead Congress. That is against our laws and our values." A day earlier, Mrs. Pelosi had claimed that CIA officials had "misled" her at a September 4, 2002 briefing on enhanced interrogation techniques, including waterboarding of the likes of Zubaydah.

Mr. Panetta had little choice but to publicly defend an agency whose morale he is now responsible for maintaining. However, on the merits, it seems highly implausible that the CIA would have lied to Mrs. Pelosi. Briefings are attended by more than one agency official, and a legislative liaison typically writes up a summary memo describing significant exchanges. Agency careerists hardly loved the Bush Administration after the Iraq WMD fiasco, and the controversy over "torture" has raged for years. If the CIA had misled Congress on a matter that was so politicized, surely someone in the agency would have leaked it long before now, if only to deflect blame onto the unpopular (and soon to depart) Republicans.

Mrs. Pelosi is now caught in a humiliation of her own design that will only escalate if she insists on an interrogation "truth commission." To adapt a famous phrase, we're not sure her reputation can handle the truth.

Panetta's Pelosi Smackdown - WSJ.com

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"Mrs. Pelosi is now caught in a humiliation of her own design that will only escalate if she insists on an interrogation "truth commission." To adapt a famous phrase, we're not sure her reputation can handle the truth." Jay

More gossip without proof. Sad. No one has been proven a liar yet, only useless generalities to further bias. Sad.
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I'll bet you need proof the sun's out on a bright and sunny day... Get real!

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You must be really proud of these developments. So Republicans will now use Pelosi's contradictory statements as a blackmailing tool to cover up Bush and Cheney's war crimes. Wonderful development indeed, worthy of a celebration only by those who think that invading foreign countries to expand American hegemony, and killing and torturing many innocent people in the process is perfectly fine as long as it benefits war profiteers, and as long as the gullible public can be duped into beleiving that it is all for defending the homeland against terrorism.
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You must be really proud of these developments. So Republicans will now use Pelosi's contradictory statements as a blackmailing tool to cover up Bush and Cheney's war crimes. Wonderful development indeed, worthy of a celebration only by those who think that invading foreign countries to expand American hegemony, and killing and torturing many innocent people in the process is perfectly fine as long as it benefits war profiteers, and as long as the gullible public can be duped into beleiving that it is all for defending the homeland against terrorism.

Ok...

Please provide a complete list of all "war crimes" they were charged with, the names of those placing the charges, the official title of the person(s) making the charges, to what court the charges were filed with, what date the trial trook place, the outcome of the trial and what was the outcome of the penalty phase.

Of course you nor those like you would ever stoop to going from "rumor" to "hang the guilty bastard" phase ........ right?
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Ok...

Please provide a complete list of all "war crimes" they were charged with, the names of those placing the charges, the official title of the person(s) making the charges, to what court the charges were filed with, what date the trial trook place, the outcome of the trial and what was the outcome of the penalty phase.

Of course you nor those like you would ever stoop to going from "rumor" to "hang the guilty bastard" phase ........ right?
You'd get further trying to talk sense to rabid, attacking dog than kookbergers like him... They are truly mad!

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Ok...

Please provide a complete list of all "war crimes" they were charged with, the names of those placing the charges, the official title of the person(s) making the charges, to what court the charges were filed with, what date the trial trook place, the outcome of the trial and what was the outcome of the penalty phase.

Of course you nor those like you would ever stoop to going from "rumor" to "hang the guilty bastard" phase ........ right?
Start reading this for starters. These articles of impeachment against Cheney on June of 2008 on the floor of the US Congress in about three hours. Please specify which of these allegations are false and what evidence do you have to back it up.

http://kucinich.us/impeachment/articles.pdf
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Start reading this for starters. These articles of impeachment against Cheney on June of 2008 on the floor of the US Congress in about three hours. Please specify which of these allegations are false and what evidence do you have to back it up.

http://kucinich.us/impeachment/articles.pdf

You accused Bush and Cheney of "War Crimes".

I gave you your chance to prove your case and the only thing you did was prove that you are FOS.

You "p100" don't have a leg to stand on , yet now you want to give me advice to "start reading"? Get real....... and stop accusing people of things that you can not prove.

...or keep spouting bullshit like that and expect people to call you on it!

The choice is yours!
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Ok...

Please provide a complete list of all "war crimes" they were charged with, the names of those placing the charges, the official title of the person(s) making the charges, to what court the charges were filed with, what date the trial trook place, the outcome of the trial and what was the outcome of the penalty phase.

Of course you nor those like you would ever stoop to going from "rumor" to "hang the guilty bastard" phase ........ right?
What makes you assume that a war crime has to have charges attached? Do the moral breaches of bombing a country and killing over a hundred thousand civilians under false circumstance not provide a cause of concern to you or does blind patriotism best logic and honor?

I thought this country was based on high moral principles, but apparently parsing of that became in vogue in the past few years.

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You accused Bush and Cheney of "War Crimes".

I gave you your chance to prove your case and the only thing you did was prove that you are FOS.

You "p100" don't have a leg to stand on , yet now you want to give me advice to "start reading"? Get real....... and stop accusing people of things that you can not prove.

...or keep spouting bullshit like that and expect people to call you on it!

The choice is yours!
So you didn't like the articles of impeachment and the evidence provided or you don't have evidence to prove that any of it is false or misleading or inaccurate?

That was a pretty good slide in avoiding addressing the question, by the way. But here on BWOT, the guys on the right are pros, you will need to step up your game to keep up with them.

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