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I thought justice was supposed to be blind to politics...
Please. Like it ever works that way.
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^ Not any more. The Constitution is just another legal doc that can be trampled on according to PC idiots. NO respect.
yea, sorta like when bushie tapped all our calls, cell phones included, as well as emails and txt messages... all for "national security".
oh, I forgot.. and changing the laws making waterboarding "OK".
one more?
how about blocking people from suing companies.
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Whomever is nominated and confirmed, I hope it isn't another elitist cookie-cutter product from Harvard/Yale/Columbia/Stanford.

I'm thinking William O. Douglas would be a good model. A bright, well-read independent thinker. A class act. His politics were not my favorite but there was no question that he was an honorable man who wasn't bound by academic legal thinking. IIRC he didn't graduate from law school.

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That's a lot to ask, given the academic credentials of the man who puts the nomination in play.

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Whomever is nominated and confirmed, I hope it isn't another elitist cookie-cutter product from Harvard/Yale/Columbia/Stanford.

I'm thinking William O. Douglas would be a good model. A bright, well-read independent thinker. A class act. His politics were not my favorite but there was no question that he was an honorable man who wasn't bound by academic legal thinking. IIRC he didn't graduate from law school.

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Looks like we are having a seance, some dead guy just started talking.

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Yeah, I've heard that many of the senators are encouraging Obama to appoint a senator or governor for the Souter SC opening, saying they want someone with "real-world" experience. Yeah, career politicians in the habit of being greased under the table and, in the case of legislators, used to lifetime pensions and medical insurance with maids and multiple homes and and and. Sure, they understand the real world.

Having worked with (and for) a few judges in my former life, I can say that most of them are pretty down to earth people. They at least understand the difference between the robe being on and the robe being off, while a senator understands s/he is always at the beck and call (and typically in the pocket of) the lobbyists. Judges drive themselves to work (don't know about the SCT Justices, but even the US Appellate Judges do), shop for groceries, go to the doctor, pay their bills, raise their kids, go to school plays and deal with mostly the same stuff as you and I. I'm sure there are some legislators and governors about whom that may be true, but I have to think they're in the minority, and not the sort of household names on powerful committees (i.e., entrenched) that would comprise the short list of nominees.

Moreover, particularly regarding the SCT, I'm much more interested in someone who DOESN'T have a lifetime of rubbing shoulders with lobbyists and playing political games. Far preferable to me is someone who has no "constituents" or axe to grind or pet issue who will instead impartially resolve the cases that come before her or him based upon the laws of these United States.
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Yeah, I've heard that many of the senators are encouraging Obama to appoint a senator or governor for the Souter SC opening, saying they want someone with "real-world" experience. Yeah, career politicians in the habit of being greased under the table and, in the case of legislators, used to lifetime pensions and medical insurance with maids and multiple homes and and and. Sure, they understand the real world.

Having worked with (and for) a few judges in my former life, I can say that most of them are pretty down to earth people. They at least understand the difference between the robe being on and the robe being off, while a senator understands s/he is always at the beck and call (and typically in the pocket of) the lobbyists. Judges drive themselves to work (don't know about the SCT Justices, but even the US Appellate Judges do), shop for groceries, go to the doctor, pay their bills, raise their kids, go to school plays and deal with mostly the same stuff as you and I. I'm sure there are some legislators and governors about whom that may be true, but I have to think they're in the minority, and not the sort of household names on powerful committees (i.e., entrenched) that would comprise the short list of nominees.

Moreover, particularly regarding the SCT, I'm much more interested in someone who DOESN'T have a lifetime of rubbing shoulders with lobbyists and playing political games. Far preferable to me is someone who has no "constituents" or axe to grind or pet issue who will instead impartially resolve the cases that come before her or him based upon the laws of these United States.
SCT judges have chauffeurs from what I recall
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SCT judges have chauffeurs from what I recall
Nowadays I'm sure they have security as well. But we're talking about someone who is going to be appointed and what their current situation is, no?
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Yeah, I guess some of them were really earthy and they even counted pubic hair on a can of coke.
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I'm lost. What state did Harriet Miers govern again?
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