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OK I am in the wrong profession

NHS spent £350m on management consultants

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The NHS spent £350 million on management consultants in England last year, new figures show.
NHS spent £350m on management consultants

Some £273 million of the money - the equivalent of 330 fully-staffed 28-bed medical wards or 9,160 experienced staff nurses - was not spent on patients, said the Royal College of Nursing.

The bulk of the money was spent on setting up competition in the health service and supporting bids for Foundation status by NHS trusts, said Chief Executive Peter Carter.

A report into up to 1,200 excess deaths in Mid-Staffordshire criticised the trust board for being more interested in attaining foundation status than patient care.

Mr Carter said: "These figures are utterly shocking when you consider the difference that this money could have made to patients.

"A very significant sum of money is clearly being spent on setting up competition in the NHS and pursuing Foundation status, rather than being invested in patient care. You only have to look at what happened at the Mid Staffordshire NHS Foundation Trust to see the consequences of this."

Cutting the money spent on management consultants could deliver 11 per cent of the £2.3 billion savings demanded from the Department of Health in Chancellor Alistair Darling's Budget last month, said Dr Carter.

"Before the Department of Health and local health trusts look at cutting frontline services, training budgets or new facilities, they need to look very carefully at the money spent on external advice and what value is added to the patient experience.

"When some individual management consultants are getting more than £1,000 a day to advise on finance, we must surely be able to afford improvements to the quality of patient care."

The Department of Health said: "Individual NHS organisations decide how best to invest their resources to ensure local people get the best possible care and services.

"We expect organisations to consider value for money and patients' interests in all aspects of their expenditure."

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No old man, the reason you are not a professional management consultant earning a lot of money is that you are too fucking stupid.

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No old man, the reason you are not a professional management consultant earning a lot of money is that you are too fucking stupid.
You mean the reason I am not ripping off the tax payer don't you?

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Dope........This is what it's come to as to your contribution to OT.

What a shame!!
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Dope........This is what it's come to as to your contribution to OT.

What a shame!!
Thanks Derek, I have been thinking the same for some time now.

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No Dope.....This is a public forum......and sending PM's to me is not the answer to this subject either.

You make your fight public ...and that is what it's becomes...Public.
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No Dope.....This is a public forum......and sending PM's to me is not the answer to this subject either.

You make your fight public ...and that is what it's becomes...Public.
The message is the same as my PM. Mind your own business unless you are aware of the background to the issue.

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Sorry Dope....I'm repeating myself.........and it's still a shame.
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"When some individual management consultants are getting more than £1,000 a day to advise on finance, we must surely be able to afford improvements to the quality of patient care."
The more esoteric finance is conjured up to be, the more these consultants exact from businesses.

... and this important discussion continues.


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