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You know Dope.
If you surround yourself with certain types of people you take on their traits.
You choose to not surround yourself , and in fact are quite confrontational with folks of faith. Your choice.. Free Will!
I don't know your background, but can tell you that when you hang with those of faith, you find the faith based on fact. I have found where the faith turns to fact through various events and actions.
Now let me tell you, I am quite a science novice, and truly enjoy science based info, but there are times science/common sense are just blown out from the reality of what faith based folks come up with. It is a testimony when certain events occur and can not be explained, and yet they were things being prayed for. Financial , medical, family events just happen. It can NOT be overlooked when you see it.

If you haven't prayed since you were 9, I have a challenge for you. Pray fervently and demand God to prove himself to you. You Need Proof! That's what you tell God. Watch out though. You might get what you ask for. Do this seriously and multiple times. You don't need to believe it, but I challenge you to try it.

If you don't take the challenge, you will never know for sure, will you?

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Your posts are full of assumptions. You are not interested in rationality and reality. That's fine if you keep it personal, but if you encourage others to favour mumbo-jumbo above science, for instance in medical matters, then you become a danger to the public.

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Financial , medical, family events just happen. It can NOT be overlooked when you see it.
luck?



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luck?

Human beings are notoriously bad at estimating chance and coincidence. It's part of our evolutionary heritage.

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i believe in randomness.



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Human beings are notoriously bad at estimating chance and coincidence. It's part of our evolutionary heritage.
Birthday paradox ?
Tea leaf reading ?

... and this important discussion continues.


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Birthday paradox ?
Tea leaf reading ?

Yes, those are good examples.

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Won't take a challenge, eh Dope?
Fraid of the outcome? Fear the unknown, do you?
It'll show you what "chance" is all about. I understand statistics, and percentages better than most. Also filled you in that I am a science novice, and give it it's rightful place.

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Won't take a challenge, eh Dope?
Fraid of the outcome? Fear the unknown, do you?
It'll show you what "chance" is all about. I understand statistics, and percentages better than most. Also filled you in that I am a science novice, and give it it's rightful place.

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I'm afraid that the more of your posts that I read, the less I think you have a grasp on reality, let alone science and statistics.

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Thanks for the inspiration guys,,, (not the religion part) I'm back on the steel cut oatmeal and fresh ground flax seed for breakfast,, starting now.
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Just got home from a 8oz rib eye and 3 eggs sunny side up, home fries and buttered up toasts at a truck stop for breakfast. Any suggestion for lunch?

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