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Governor asks: What if pot's legal and taxed?

Just legalize it already!

The only reason it is illegal is because the Cotton industry lobby convinced the government to ban it because they could not compete against the durability of hemp. They demonized it with the help of the Christian Right and went on the same campaign as the Prohibitionists!

God could you imagine the money generated on the secondary effects alone? The day before this becomes legal I am buying stock in Taco Bell and Frito Lay.

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Am I wrong here? I though Hemp was different from Marijuana, but from the same family. Hemp only contains 1% of THC, where the latter contains 10-20% THC.

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Am I wrong here? I though Hemp was different from Marijuana, but from the same family. Hemp only contains 1% of THC, where the latter contains 10-20% THC.
No you are not wrong. It is the same family and that was the basis for it's outlaw.

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Your original post crosses the line between the two. While I agree that the legalization and regulation of Marijuana should be allowed, and can't see how/where Marijuana has anything to do with Hemp. Hemp should have been legalized years ago.

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Your original post crosses the line between the two. While I agree that the legalization and regulation of Marijuana should be allowed, and can't see how/where Marijuana has anything to do with Hemp. Hemp should have been legalized years ago.
That was the cotton industy's argument for the whole thing. It has the same properties as Marijuana (albeit in far less proportions) and everyone knew that Mary Jane was the "Devils Weed", so everything that had THC needed to be made illegal.

A very convenient backdoor to outlaw the production of hemp.

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That was the cotton industy's argument for the whole thing. It has the same properties as Marijuana (albeit in far less proportions) and everyone knew that Mary Jane was the "Devils Weed", so everything that had THC needed to be made illegal.

A very convenient backdoor to outlaw the production of hemp.
I'm not so sure that it was all the cotton industry's fault...

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Grown worldwide for millenia as a source of food, medicine, fiber and paper, hemp was banned for the first time in human history in 1938 by the United States.

The original impetus for outlawing the hemp plant came from the DuPont and Mellon families with an important assist from William Randolf Hearst.

Hearst owned timber rights for millions of acres of forest land, the raw material for newsprint. DuPont had patents for numerous synthetic products that hemp is competitive with.

Harry Anslinger, the virulent racist who headed the Bureau of Narcotics and spear-headed the campaign against "demon marijuana" was married to the niece of Richard Mellon of the Mellon banking family.
Nonetheless, it was stupid to ban one crop because of another being close on a biological level. I also think it was dumb to ban a crop to shore up sales of another crop.

The time to legalize Hemp is now...it can provide many jobs and durable goods.

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Don't forget the massive savings that state and local governments would realize, if they weren't mandated to arrest, prosecute and house thousands of people for minor pot-related "crimes". It's completely absurd that alcohol and tobacco are legal and pot isn't. Stoopid policy
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Don't forget the massive savings that state and local governments would realize, if they weren't mandated to arrest, prosecute and house thousands of people for minor pot-related "crimes". It's completely absurd that alcohol and tobacco are legal and pot isn't. Stoopid policy
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Somebody wrote this and it is a very good description. I say the cottom industry was behind this as a lobby because they were the ones pumping all the money. Much like any other lobby they use the current factors of fear and misunderstanding. The media then runs with it and sensationalizes it even more.

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Originally, hemp was a very important cash crop (though not the way marijuana is today). It was a source of fiber that was used for rope, paper, and fabric. For many years hempseed oil was a primary oil used for lighting. In fact, one historian notes that prior to 1830, hemp was the most traded commodity in the world.

Strange as it may seem, the American cotton industry was one of the major players in getting marijuana/hemp outlawed. Through most of history cotton was a fiber only for the very wealthy, and even then most would not have been able to afford a garmet made completely of cotton. The development of the cotton gin in the late 1700s made cotton fiber much cheaper to produce. King Cotton came to power, but still had to compete with hemp. Then the development of the hemp decorticator in the 1930s brought the cost of harvesting hemp down dramatically, and it began to threaten King Cotton's superiority in the American marketplace. (Understandably so. Hemp is a superior fiber, is much easier to grow, and has a host of other benefits, even when grown without THC.) As a consequence, the American cotton industry was behind much of the propoganda and lobbying to outlaw marijuana, as a way to eleminate hemp.

Just as there were many odd and disparate factors that led to marijuana being initially outlawed in the US, there are many odd and disparate factors that keep it illegal, despite the incredible benefits industrial hemp could offer the American economy. It's said that one of the largest lobbies against legalizing marijuana is the large-scale pot growers. While this seems counter-intuitive, large-scale growers realize that if marijuana is legalized and readily available, the price will drop significantly and pot would no longer bring them the high prices it currently does. But perhaps the biggest factor keeping marijuana illegal is the amount of money and political power that is currently tied up in the soi-disant "war on drugs." Despite the government's own figures showing that the interdiction methods currently used are the most expensive and least effective, there is no indication that they plan to change their tactics. To do so would upset the huge apple-cart they've built.

This is only a limited glimpse of some of the factors that led to marijuana becoming and staying illegal. It's a fascinating study, and provides critical insight into how and why our government does things.
And here is a MUCH more in depth analysis.

Why is Marijuana Illegal?

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