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I am building a loft bed for my daughter.

As I want this to last through the years I am looking for a specific type of Bolt to hold the frame together. I would prefer to not use a regular lag bolt.

What I am looking for is a barrel sleeve type anchor. The sleeve would be threaded on the outside like a lag bolt, and then machine threaded inside to take a carriage bolt.

I have looked at the Home Depot and actually talked with the Grip-Rite representative in the fastener aisle. I can't seem to locate them online either. Mostly because I don't know what the proper name would be I think.

Anybody know what I am talking about or better yet know where I can get some?

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Don't know about a lag bolt with a machine thread on the inside, but a T nut would work great for you. Here's a link:Tee Nuts | Fastener SuperStore
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Thanks Gerkebi but those won't work for what I need to do. These are going to be the bolts that hold the bed frame and crossmembers together.

Here is a picture of the project. Where you see the two dots on the end is where I want to use these bolts. I am looking for bolts about 4-6 inches long.
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A suspended loft bed would be cool.
Bolted on the ceiling.
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I know exactly what you mean, but I can't think of the name of them either.

However, I'm a fan of being able to more easily take something apart if need be (and you know your daughter will want to re-arrange things, right?) so I'd suggest either of the top two connectors in the attached PDF.
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I know exactly what you mean, but I can't think of the name of them either.

However, I'm a fan of being able to more easily take something apart if need be (and you know your daughter will want to re-arrange things, right?) so I'd suggest either of the top two connectors in the attached PDF.
That first one is actually not a bad idea. I will have to do some mortising but that shouldn't be too bad. I may see if I can't find something like those heavy duty ones.

I am a little leery of them though because I have seen them before (on the current bed) and they are ok for solid foundation type beds or panel partitions. I think they would work free with a simple frame. Although I could sink longer screws into the plates.

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A suspended loft bed would be cool.
Bolted on the ceiling.
Sure it is cool.

This is a bed though that she will be able to take with her and pass down to her kids though. Assembled, disassembled, etc.

The frame itself is going to be pretty heavy, 2x10 with a 3/4 plywood insert for the mattress to be on.

I was looking at the Home Depot near me and the only 4x4 posts they had are the treated kind and cedar. I was thinking that cedar post might offset the pine frame.

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Did you ever think about using bed rail hangers instead? They hide on the inside of the frame so you keep a nice clean look on the outside, and disassembling the bedframe becomes a piece of cake - no tools required.

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D'oh. That's what Greg recommended. I'll shut up now.
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Sure it is cool.

This is a bed though that she will be able to take with her and pass down to her kids though. Assembled, disassembled, etc.

The frame itself is going to be pretty heavy, 2x10 with a 3/4 plywood insert for the mattress to be on.

I was looking at the Home Depot near me and the only 4x4 posts they had are the treated kind and cedar. I was thinking that cedar post might offset the pine frame.
Not sure I'd use treated lumber for an indoor piece of furniture.

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Scroll about halfway down on this one. It says outdoor use only.

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