No more than 5%, and many of those are agricultural workers who only get seasonal wages. Most are here working w-2 jobs with phony SS#'s, the employers are under no obligation to check the SS#'s to see if they are any good. They pay MORE in taxes than other people because they will never see a dime of the SS taxes they pay, they also pay sales and property taxes, through rents. But the biggest advantage our economy gets is low prices, which is worth trillions to us.
Of those who have produced a falsified SSN, taxes are being withheld by their employers. Those who are day laborers or are being paid under the table by smaller companies and subcontractors, are probably not having taxes withheld, and so they're not paying taxes.
I hate to tell you, but I think 5% dramatically underestimates the number of people working in arrangements like this.
I would bet there are more than 5% of US Citizens who work under the table, and that is a much bigger problem than the illegal aliens but few look at that.
Who turns in a form for your lawn guy or your pool girl or the guy that cleans your gutters or...
lol.. that's what i was thinking with the under the table, Bear, but ftl is down in the t
ex-mexico so i am sure his numbers will vary quite a bit.
to the second Q Bear: every Jew i know. they never pay cash, never. not slamming them, just what i have witnessed/experienced.
The point is you have an irrational and insubstainable fear of illegal aliens. Why not post some numbers or stats to back up your fear? Why not spend some time around a few and see what they are all about? You are making me so annoyed i am doing this on my i phone in Santa Rosa.
they are freaking law breakers Shane. what do you think happens to US citizens who may sneak into canadia and don't file the paperwork?
of course they are people, just like you and i and everybody.. just open up the borders? i am not for amnesty..
Fuck you Shane. I have no such "fear". No man is above the law, why is that such a problem for you to comprehend? How fucking hard is it to fill out some damned paperwork and make sure the country knows you're here?
For someone of means such as yourself, the constant defense of illegal immigration because it suppresses the cost of goods reeks of another type of fear...the type that grows from GREED. Some holes you can't fill with money.
bear, ftl, that's exactly how it works with the "papers"; i didn't know about the irs exactly.
around here, and i am sure everywhere else this is how the illegals work it (not necessarily just mexicans; any other nation that US restricts entry to has many, many illegals here):
one legal US citizen formerly from one of those nations is the face for everything.. he hires all the illegals for cash... I know of people (in either position) that have been doing this for years..very hard to catch on from the outside.
in the mean time one illegal gets an apartment and waits for more illegals to flow in. the two bedroom apt. now holds 8-10 guys. within about a year, a few or most will move on and a kid or a wife will show up. within another year more family flows in. out of the 8-10 guys in that one partment, half may go on and start similar heavens.. and so on.
within just about a dozen years the the mexican population went from 0 here to at least 500k.. nobody really knows exactly due to conditions such as the one i described above. very few are legal. many speak no english or act like they don't.