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Creation ?
Evolution is still considered theory....

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The Theory of Evolution is what it is, a scientific Theory. Only children and imbeciles contend that it is incorrect.

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Yes they do BNZ, but how and to what? Did God direct the evolution , or not?
I agree they evolve. I don't say evolution is junk, but some of it is and is given as fact.
Then others who are dedicated give us good data. Still it is all theory when looking all the way back to creation. Not definite data. Theory is based on the best data available and it looks pretty good, but there are a lot of holes, and can't yet get past the theory stage to fact. In time and more data... Probably.
Francis Collins Language of God is a good read, since he comes from a vast science base. Also written in easy language.

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Creationism/intelligent design are pathetic and transparent attempts to inject religion into public life and circumvent separation rulings.
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Yes they do BNZ, but how and to what? Did God direct the evolution , or not?
I agree they evolve. I don't say evolution is junk, but some of it is and is given as fact.
Then others who are dedicated give us good data. Still it is all theory when looking all the way back to creation. Not definite data. Theory is based on the best data available and it looks pretty good, but there are a lot of holes, and can't yet get past the theory stage to fact. In time and more data... Probably.
Francis Collins Language of God is a good read, since he comes from a vast science base. Also written in easy language.

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Which part of the Theory of Evolution is inconvenient to you, or you consider wrong? The more you discuss it, the more I suspect you don't understand it.

Francis Collins by the way is a fruitcake. The mainstream scientific community respects his work on the genome project but takes his religious views as gibberish. Ah, but you are fluent in gibberish, so it obviously holds water with you.

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Yes they do BNZ, but how and to what? Did God direct the evolution , or not?
I agree they evolve. I don't say evolution is junk, but some of it is and is given as fact.
Then others who are dedicated give us good data. Still it is all theory when looking all the way back to creation. Not definite data. Theory is based on the best data available and it looks pretty good, but there are a lot of holes, and can't yet get past the theory stage to fact. In time and more data... Probably.
Francis Collins Language of God is a good read, since he comes from a vast science base. Also written in easy language.

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Is the bible wrong, or not? God created all things. The bible makes no mention of evolution. God, apparently, never told anyone "that stuff I made? It's going to kind of grow and change and adapt to the earth"...presumably because they'd say "What the fuck? Why would they need to 'adapt'? Are you just dicking around or something here? Is this just a school project for you? Do the other God's kick your ass at lunch time?"

And perhaps later they'd say "And by the way, what the fuck is with these gigantic bones in the ground? You never said anything about them. Or the oil we see bubbling out of there. Or these glow in the dark rocks that look cool, and we'd put them on our walls, but we don't have any yet, and every time we touch them we start to feel funny and eventually die. How about an adaptation for that?"

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There's not junk science in creationism, or evolution. The difference is that creationism isn't science at all. Science doesn't involve setting out to prove theories by developing complex and fallacious "logic" constructs, then stopping as soon as something resembling a complete sentence makes it onto the whiteboard. Science involves a constant effort to test and disprove theories, so that we may arrive at a complete understanding of how something works.
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Please note the fact that I didn't use the word Religion...I have great issues with religion.
uuuuuu...Creationism is a tenant of RELIGION. It is not found anywhere else. It is based on a GOD Creating, hence the clever little name.

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The Theory of Evolution is what it is, a scientific Theory. Only children and imbeciles contend that it is incorrect.
Sol you are not saying that it is a theory. You are saying it is a fact. (which it is not).

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Sol you are not saying that it is a theory. You are saying it is a fact. (which it is not).

Corky, check the definition of 'scientific Theory' then come back to the topic.

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Sol you are not saying that it is a theory. You are saying it is a fact. (which it is not).
Not unless he is a very poor speller.

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The only issues I have with evolution( and were off subject here from creation) is all the links are not in, and some have been falsified. This doesn't mean evolution is junk science, but rather not complete. I think we will in time connect the dots(the links) but as of yet they are not all connected. Thus it is still considered theory.

Collins does not get specific enough on Science with the theological writings to warrant criticism . He is not making a call on the issue, but instead just thoughts. One of his points is what i just typed above in that the links are coming at us exponentially faster, but again they are not all there.
Again, before you blast away, I am not anti evolution, but we are off topic.

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