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The word is HEAR, not here.

But let's go to the raw data. It's much more informative than a spun article.

Pew Research Center: Limbaugh Holds onto his Niche -- Conservative Men

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Anyone else getting a 404 code? File not found.

Is it somewhere else there P100?
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Published: Sunday June 24, 2007

A new Newsweek poll out this weekend exposed "gaps" in America's knowledge of history and current events.

Perhaps most alarmingly, 41% of Americans answered 'Yes' to the question "Do you think Saddam Hussein’s regime in Iraq was directly involved in planning, financing, or carrying out the terrorist attacks of September 11th, 2001?"

That total is actually up 5 points since September 2004.

Further, a majority of people couldn't identify Saudia Arabia as the country of origin of most of the 9/11 hijackers, even given the question in multiple choice format. 20% answered Iraq, while 14% believed the hijackers came from Iran.

A majority (52%) believe the US is losing the war against al Qaeda, however Newsweek disagrees. In the magazine's reporting of the poll, they made judgment that the US is in fact not "losing the fight against al-Qaeda or radical Islamic terrorism."

Closer to home, 89% of Americans are unable to name the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court (John Roberts), though a majority of those polled were able to name Nancy Pelosi as the current Speaker of the House.

A large majority of people said they didn't know or didn't care who the winner of this year's American Idol competition was (or at least weren't willing to admit it).

The full results of the Newsweek poll are available here.

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I fixed the link in my original post.
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Oh, now, stop that, you're starting to sound like Jay. How's that big government model working these days?
It sucks.

Remember, I have been the guy that likes efficiency. [and I might have to cut and paste this]. I was the one, back in 2006 that was bitching about the deficits and everyone was poo-pooing them as OK, we can grow out of them. I was the one taking about how our little NeoCon had increased the size of government from $1.9T to over $3.0T but most of the Republicans kept saying that it was all OK and everything was cool and how robust everything was and that I was just being chicken little and saying the sky is falling.

So now, we have this RFP for a metric shitload of poles to hold up the sky after eight years of stupidity and yeppers, it is going to cost money. Yet now, suddenly while in the minority and acting like baby birds many of the Republicans [all branches] have decided that fiscal conservatism is a good idea. TOO LATE. You kids needed to be beating on your Congressman and Senator's door and YOUR President's door back in 2002 telling him and them to Pay as they go or STOP.

To use GS's metaphor we have our very large building on fire and contrary to some thought, we can't let it burn down since it is the only building for the 305Million of us to live and work in. It would have been nice to think about that a while back but that didn't happen.

So we have big government and a bigger problem that has an even bigger bill associated with fixing it. I don't like it but I have found through 30 years of systems analysis that sometimes I run into problems that just have NO good solution, just a series of bad ones.

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You're such a radical. Show me a full tilt anything, before you ask for a full tilt libertarian. I know you're against curtailed spending and efficient central government, but try to keep it real....
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In my honest opinion ..and I say that most sincerely,

Beck and O'Reilly display a ribald homoerotic relationship that is fascinating viewing. Their flamboyant 'connected' chattering exposes an undertow of two deeply satisfied physical passions. I can hear their testicles churning in anticipation of 'lifting each others shirts' after a few after work drinks, midweek ..and most certainly Friday's latenight with the boys !
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^ Audrey Who???

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I fixed the link in my original post.
Thanks. I was able to read the blog post.

So first are we supposed to actually take the blog post at its face value? I mean McBear says we shouldn't. He likes to tells us crazy RWNJ's what to think. Good thing I don't like being told what to think so I will disregard McBear's obvious bias and take the article as something of interest.

Next, the one thing McBear likes to always tout is the Raw Data. I can't seem to find that even with the link. Most likely because it is 2 years old.

So what is left is the original question from the Blog.

Do you think Saddam Hussein’s regime in Iraq was directly involved in
planning,
financing,
or carrying
out the terrorist attacks of September 11th, 2001?"

So we want to guess at what part each person thought they were answering? Or what combinations?

Now what was the sample? Where was the sample taken from? etc.

Finally, do you actually believe that 41% of the American people believe this despite the media onslaught to the contrary?

In essence, if you give people enough choices for a question you can get a statistically valid percentage for anything you want to say.

How about:

Have you ever hit, thought of hitting, or had a malicious thought about your spouse?

That turns into 85% of married people admit to domestic abuse.

When you ask a question and want an accurate representation there has to be one variable. Not several.

Seems that you find information to back up your belief and then do not allow reason to temper or provide context.

Who's John Galt.

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