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Just shoot the bastard and be done with. One less pirate to deal with.

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Just shoot the bastard and be done with. One less pirate to deal with.
OTOH it's just piracy not murder.

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History shows that the city has long held pirates in high regard. Successful ones, that is. Under Col. Benjamin Fletcher, who became the British governor of New York in 1692, piracy was a leading economic development tool in the city’s competition with the ports of Boston and Philadelphia.

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During the Revolutionary War, privateering became a vital element in the rebellion against England. One merchant, John Broome, moved to Connecticut to set up a privateering operation that worked Long Island Sound.

It was not only tactically useful, but a lucrative business as well, with thousands of American seamen involved in one way or another, said Mr. Burrows.

But New York’s long entanglement with pirates is not necessarily good news for Mr. Muse. “I don’t think he has deep pockets,” Mr. Burrows said. “They brought him to the right town at the wrong time. The place was only hospitable if you had money to show.”
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Some speculation now if he can be held for prosecution at all.
Being he was aboard a U.S. shipped doing negotiations during the killings
of the other pirates.
Doesn't look like it. Kenya is the agreed upon destination for captured pirates.

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Unlike previous pirate suspects who have been handed over for trial in Kenya, Muse was brought to New York on Monday night and is expected to be arraigned in Manhattan soon.

But even if the young Somali broke the law and kidnapped Americans, putting him on trial in New York will do nothing to stamp out the piracy that is plaguing the Somali coastline. If anything, it will turn Muse into a martyr, prompting an escalation of violence on the high seas by his peers, who will rally more Somalis to their cause (which is already pretty popular in the long-suffering nation), and jeopardize U.S. national-security interests in East Africa.

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There are hundreds of young men just like him all along the Somali coastline, calling themselves "coast guards" who protect Somali waters and "tax" foreign shipping to compensate for the fact that foreign fishing fleets, unmolested by any Somali state authority, annually plunder hundreds of millions of dollars of fish from Somali waters — and also for the fact that unscrupulous foreigners have used the coast to dump toxic waste.

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Still, the plight of Somalia's coastline certainly helps explain why the phenomenon is so widespread — and why the pirates are viewed by many Somalis as folk heroes. Putting Muse on trial in New York won't change that; it will simply reinforce an already negative prevailing view of the U.S.
This is what I have noticed as well, certainly puts in perspective the killings of the other 3.

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Until now, the Somali pirates have scrupulously avoided harming their captives; their capture has been simply a business transaction. That may soon change.

Why New York Is No Place to Try Somali Pirates - TIME

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OTOH it's just piracy not murder.
So they are not murdering people on the high seas? I am only an eye for an eye. Apparently piracy is flourishing in that area the last 2 decades because they know they get away with murder, no punt intended.

If countries start taking actions toward privacy in the area, it will cease when death toll starts to climb and the Somalians deem privacy a risky business.

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So they are not murdering people on the high seas? I am only an eye for an eye. Apparently piracy is flourishing in that area the last 2 decades because they know they get away with murder, no punt intended.

If countries start taking actions toward privacy in the area, it will cease when death toll starts to climb and the Somalians deem privacy a risky business.
Privacy can be risky...especially if you're married and the wife comes home...

Your second paragraph confused me at first...LOL Just a mere typo

I'm not a real dickhead...but I acted like one in high school.
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So they are not murdering people on the high seas? I am only an eye for an eye. Apparently piracy is flourishing in that area the last 2 decades because they know they get away with murder, no punt intended.

If countries start taking actions toward privacy in the area, it will cease when death toll starts to climb and the Somalians deem privacy a risky business.
Their objective is money, so no, they are not killing people but of course, there are exceptions.
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