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I intentionally stayed away from Pubs and Dems and you can see why. It's a lame comparison that some may make but it's not equivalent. The "Bush's fault" rally cry is long way from "kill the jews".
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How much did Egypt get and why? We spread it around. There are reasons for handouts. Some are to promote a form of governing and some is just blatant dictator payoff to keep them on our side.
IOW, we are driven by expediency rather than principle.

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Do you mean to imply that you have some sort of financial expertise? I await your pronouncements on that topic with bated breath. J/K. (Aside to Deafy: "baited" breath )
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IOW, we are driven by expediency rather than principle.

Many times, unfortunately.

Do you mean to imply that you have some sort of financial expertise? I await your pronouncements on that topic with bated breath. J/K. (Aside to Deafy:

Yes. Many here are better at investments, mine is business.
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Stu, I have amended post 29 and have added more stuff. Please read all and comment. As an American, if you do not feel as though you and your country is being raped, then I will have lost all respect for your service and you. I really hope that what I have posted really pisses you off and I don't have to question your patriotism.
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^ Dude, I agree with less than 10% of what you write. Sometimes you are sane, but wrong. Other times you lose all semblance of rationality and believe you need some serious deprogramming.
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^ Dude, I agree with less than 10% of what you write. Sometimes you are sane, but wrong. Other times you lose all semblance of rationality and believe you need some serious deprogramming.
I respect your opinion, however you didn't answer my question about post 29 and its contents. I didn't write it; I copied and pasted it and also gave the sources. Please read the material and tell me if you as an American and as a true patriot don't burn up with anger or are you OK with this practice and the fact of how much it hurts America? Don't make me question your service and patriotism.
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It is a CHOICE.
It is a JOB.
No more, no less.
Well, in WW2 it was a DRAFT so choice was not a part of it. Many volunteered but all didn't.

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It is a CHOICE.
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So I guess the deaths of firefighter and cops doesn't matter to you either since its their "job" or "choice" to protect you. I guess the 9-11 first responders don't matter either. They were only doing their job. Right? Very good? Let me tell you something. If there people were not doing their "Jobs" your people would not exist today. You owe everything, your existence to them because they were doing their "job."

So again, if a firefighter dies trying to save your family member from a fire, then it is just that for you, a "job"?
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..........."There also have been immense political and military costs to the U.S. for its consistent support of Israel during Israel’s half-century of disputes with the Palestinians and all of its Arab neighbors. In addition, there have been the approximately $10 billion in U.S. loan guarantees and perhaps $20 billion in tax-exempt contributions made to Israel by American Jews in the nearly half-century since Israel was created." The Cost of Israel to US Taxpayers

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Why should treason be tax-exempt? Contributions to the Republican or Democratic Party and the National Rifle Association are not deductible on our tax returns because these are deemed as political activities. Our tax law does not allow political contributions to be deducted as is the case with charitable contributions. The powerful "Jewish" lobby that is dedicated to furthering the interests of Israel IS tax deductible! Why is that?! .........But if political activities and so-called political groups, whose intentions are for the benefit of all the American people including their ultimate goal in ensuring the freedoms of Americans are excluded from tax-exempt status by the IRS, why then are donations to the foreign State of Israel allowed as sheltered contributions? AIPAC lobbies exclusively for Israel, and has as part of its agenda, the maintenance of their tax-exempt status. The question is not as to why AIPAC wishes to maintain its tax-exempt status - the question is why American government allows contributions for a powerful foreign lobby to remain tax-exempt? Sack_AIPAC_AND_ABOLISH_THEIR_TAX_EXEMPT_STATUS.htm 9-2-04



Most Americans are not aware how much of their tax revenue our government sends to Israel. For the fiscal year ending in September 30, 1997, the U.S. has given Israel $6.72 billion: $6.194 billion falls under Israel's foreign aid allotment and $526 million comes from agencies such as the Department of Commerce, the U.S. Information Agency and the Pentagon. The $6.72 billion figure does not include loan guarantees and annual compound interest totalling $3.122 billion the U.S. pays on money borrowed to give to Israel. It does not include the cost to U.S. taxpayers of IRS tax exemptions that donors can claim when they donate money to Israeli charities. (Donors claim approximately $1 billion in Federal tax deductions annually. This ultimately costs other U.S. tax payers $280 million to $390 million.) U.S. Aid to Israel


A donor can claim a $1 million donation to an Israeli charity, and deduct this from his U.S. tax liability. ............the total of tax-exempt U.S. donations to Israel now approaches $1 billion annually. .........These generous congressional gestures to Israel are subject to massive abuses because the recipient institutions are outside the reach of U.S. law or oversight. A donor can claim a $1 million donation to an Israeli charity, and deduct this from his U.S. tax liability. But there is no way to prove the donation actually was for the amount claimed, if it went to the organization claimed, or even if it was made at all.........the cost to U.S. taxpayers of this exemption for Israeli charities could be up to 38 percent of the estimated $1 billion in claimed donations.
http://www.ameu.org/page.asp?iid=97&aid=134&pg=5
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Only 6 million Jews in America yet $1 BILLION claimed in tax exempt donations every year going to Israel!
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Stu, I have amended post 29 and have added more stuff. Please read all and comment. As an American, if you do not feel as though you and your country is being raped, then I will have lost all respect for your service and you. I really hope that what I have posted really pisses you off and I don't have to question your patriotism.
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^ Dude, I agree with less than 10% of what you write. Sometimes you are sane, but wrong. Other times you lose all semblance of rationality and believe you need some serious deprogramming.
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I respect your opinion, however you didn't answer my question about post 29 and its contents. I didn't write it; I copied and pasted it and also gave the sources. Please read the material and tell me if you as an American and as a true patriot don't burn up with anger or are you OK with this practice and the fact of how much it hurts America? Don't make me question your service and patriotism.
^^^Are you going to respond Stu? What about you Andrei?
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Well, in WW2 it was a DRAFT so choice was not a part of it. Many volunteered but all didn't.
True that.

I guess they don't matter because they got paid so it was just a "job." Doesn't matter that they got killed. Right Andrei?
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