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That is the truth Bear. Glad to see your sharpness once again.

My problem is, I refuse to accept those realities.

My world went down on 9/11. It did not recover -so far. Will it, ever? I don't know.
Well, I was standing on 49th and 8th until I got paged so I understand that completely.

One thing I found out while working in NYC, I had friends and work peers who were from all over the world and we could, much like here discuss damned near everything. It was, for a time awkward to have an Orthodox Jew, a Muslim, a German Catholic, an Irish Catholic and a recovering Southern Baptist kicking back in a conference room discussing all the crap going down in the world. It certainly helped when everyone was looking everyone else in the face. It is much harder to talk about "those people" when one or two of them are in the room. The conversations are just as hot but they are very too the point and get much information flow.

Push forward to being sent to UAE when you are the ONLY white guy in the group of 20 and decide you want to have the same conversations. "You people" takes on a completely different perspective. Usually it was not me making those comments. It is where I first understood the underlying anger and its history.

Is it going to "RECOVER". I really doubt it will ever be the same world. That is both good and bad. For those who really liked the comfort of hiding within the world's superpower, it is not going to be as good. For those who have traveled the world and have a world view, who have an understanding that we are not the leader of the world, simply one of it's luckier citizens everything will be fine.

Much like my photography, everything is a matter of perspective.

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Maybe random thoughts and random postings...as usual
Except when it is about Cadillacs.

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What is the deal with the fear mongerers calling thinking people anti-American? Has it come to this? Do they continually have to draw a line in the sand and declare themselves independently righteous? I mean why do we have to police the entire world and impose our values on every stinking two bit, useless country around? Do you absolute dumb fucks think this is the way to conquer? Are you that historically naive? You think the Romans ruled by brute force alone? No. They were always tolerable of regional cultural norms. YOU GET MORE WITH HONEY THAN WITH VINEGAR!
Actually that plugged in very well into the conversation. The thought that we can't look pragmatically at a abstract culture for which we have no control and, because we make that assertion we can be considered "un American", unwilling to standup for American values, even when they can't apply.

As for the honey, I thought you had Davey on a diet.

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If I recall correctly, our differences were mostly about the treatment of the wild and domestic cats.


I find the wild pussy far tastier.
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I find the wild pussy far tastier.
See Bear he is not on his (expected/supposed) diet.
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Different Davey.
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Different Davey.
same diet
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BWOT had became a bastion of anti-semitism and promotes islamic values and sharia law under the false banner of the "cultural tolerance".

I am ashamed such thing had happened, but too bad.

I am also ashamed to be on the same board with the defenders of the 6-8 years old girls married to the 50+ old men (wait, doesn't the prophet fall in here?).

BWOT used to be a great place to relax and talk and discuss.

Not anymore.

I am monitoring the forum from time to time, but don't even feel I need to respond, even to some outrageous and stupid comments.

If BWOT is a mirror of our society, we are fucking doomed.

To the old-timers: sorry guys, you let myself and yourselves down. You had allowed and encouraged this bullshit and the transformation of the board.

It used to be a fun place.

Not anymore.
IIRC, nearly all the blatant anti-semites have been banned, and although there are a few muslims who chime in to defend their faith I don't believe I've ever seen any poster defend extreme versions of sharia law. I've also somehow missed the defenders of pedophilia, so exactly what's your point here?
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IIRC, nearly all the blatant anti-semites have been banned, and although there are a few muslims who chime in to defend their faith I don't believe I've ever seen any poster defend extreme versions of sharia law. I've also somehow missed the defenders of pedophilia, so exactly what's your point here?
Oh hi Z.

Expected you to show up earlier.

Please re-read my original post when you have the spare time from your regular schedule of kissing some muslim asses.
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What a pussy. Don't let the door hit you on your way out
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