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Okay, Tahloube, I apologize for asking you to comment on the affairs of Afghani Muslims, when there's a much more relevant news item this week that shouldn't be nearly so difficult for you to comment upon.

UNICEF 'deeply concerned' about marriage of 8-year-old - CNN.com

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(CNN) -- The head of the U.N. Children's Fund has expressed concern over a Saudi judge's refusal for a second time to annul a marriage between an 8-year-old girl and a 47-year-old man.

"Irrespective of circumstances or the legal framework, the marriage of a child is a violation of that child's rights," said Ann Veneman, executive director of UNICEF.

"The right to free and full consent to marriage is recognized in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Consent cannot be free and full when either party to a marriage is too young to make an informed decision."

The most recent ruling, in which the judge upheld his original verdict, was handed down Saturday in the Saudi city of Onaiza, where late last year the same judge rejected a petition from the girl's mother, seeking a divorce for her daughter. Have your say by clicking here

A relative said the judge, Sheikh Habib al-Habib, "stuck by his earlier verdict and insisted that the girl could petition the court for a divorce once she reached puberty." The family member, who requested anonymity, added that the mother will continue to pursue a divorce for her daughter.

The case, which has drawn criticism from local and international rights groups, came to light in December when al-Habib declined to annul the marriage on a legal technicality. The judge ruled that the girl's mother -- who is separated from her father -- was not the girl's legal guardian and therefore could not represent her in court, Abdullah al-Jutaili, the mother's attorney, told CNN at the time.

The girl's father, according to the lawyer, arranged the marriage in order to settle his debts with the man, who is a close friend of his. At the time of the initial verdict, the judge required the girl's husband to sign a pledge that he would not have sex with her until she reaches puberty, al-Jutaili told CNN. The judge ruled that when the girl reaches puberty, she will have the right to request a divorce by filing a petition with the court, the lawyer said.

Last month, an appeals court in the Saudi capital of Riyadh declined to certify the original ruling, in essence rejecting al-Habib's verdict, and sent the case back to him for reconsideration.

Under the complicated Saudi legal process, the appeals court ruling meant that the marriage was still in effect, but that a challenge to the marriage was still ongoing. The appeals court in Riyadh will now take up the case again and a hearing is scheduled for next month, according to the relative.

The issue of child marriage has been a hot-button topic in the deeply conservative kingdom recently. While rights groups have petitioned the government for laws to protect children from such marriages, the kingdom's top cleric has said that it's OK for girls as young as 10 to wed.

"It is incorrect to say that it's not permitted to marry off girls who are 15 and younger," Sheikh Abdul Aziz Al-Sheikh, the kingdom's grand mufti, said in remarks last January, according to the regional Al-Hayat newspaper. "A girl aged 10 or 12 can be married. Those who think she's too young are wrong, and they are being unfair to her."

Al-Sheikh reportedly made the remarks when he was asked during a lecture about parents forcing their underage daughters to marry.

"We hear a lot in the media about the marriage of underage girls," he said, according to the newspaper. "We should know that sharia law has not brought injustice to women."

Sharia law is Islamic law. Saudi Arabia follows a strict interpretation of Islam called Wahhabism.

CNN was unable to reach government officials for comment.

Christoph Wilcke, a Saudi Arabia researcher for Human Rights Watch, told CNN in December that his organization has heard of many other cases of child marriages.

"We've been hearing about these types of cases once every four or five months because the Saudi public is now able to express this kind of anger -- especially so when girls are traded off to older men," Wilcke said.

Wilcke said that although Saudi ministries might make decisions designed to protect children, "It is still the religious establishment that holds sway in the courts, and in many realms beyond the court."

In December, Zuhair al-Harithi, a spokesman for the Saudi government-run Human Rights Commission, said his organization is fighting against child marriages.

"The Human Rights Commission opposes child marriages in Saudi Arabia," al-Harithi said. "Child marriages violate international agreements that have been signed by Saudi Arabia and should not be allowed." He added that his organization has been able to intervene and stop at least one child marriage from taking place.

Wajeha al-Huwaider, co-founder of the Society of Defending Women's Rights in Saudi Arabia, told CNN that achieving human rights in the kingdom means standing against those who want to "keep us backward and in the dark ages."

She said the marriages cause girls to "lose their sense of security and safety. Also, it destroys their feeling of being loved and nurtured. It causes them a lifetime of psychological problems and severe depression."
Soooo....you were saying?
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The first time CNN never used "Muslim" in the title. I'm impressed.

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Damn Q, Saudi does a lot of things alot of the world do not like or approve of. Now why do you pick on Tahloube, did she break up with you or what?
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Well, since we're all piling on with the collective guilt thing

Tahloube, yesterday a female driver cut me off, causing me to swerve and feel a nervous adrenaline rush. Since you're a woman, I demand an explanation as to what this woman was thinking and how this could've happened. I'm waiting
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^^^^Hah, I once got a blowjob from a girl from Oklahoma and she did not swallow, now who do I complain to about that Tahloube or Q?
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Slavery! That's what that BS is all about. This "arrangement" was to pay off a debt and the judge Sheikh Habib-Al Habib is basically facilitating an act of slavery.
Arabs practiced slavery before Islam and still do even though it is prohibited by Islam. So where does Tahloube fit in all of this? Were you expecting her to defend such a practice?
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It is their culture. They can do whatever they want. Don't be so arrogant as to force your perceived cultural norms upon them. Tahloube owes you no explaination at all.
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It is their culture. They can do whatever they want. Don't be so arrogant as to force your perceived cultural norms upon them. Tahloube owes you no explaination at all.
Exactly and that's my reference to cat juggling
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Damn Q, Saudi does a lot of things alot of the world do not like or approve of. Now why do you pick on Tahloube, did she break up with you or what?
She's been defending Saudis and Muslims unapologetically for quite some time, simultaneously throwing Jews and Christians under the bus at every opportunity. She has a habit of assigning blame for all the ills facing Muslims on everyone else on the planet, steadfastly refusing to address any of the self-inflicted wounds this religion of barbarism causes itself. I find the hypocrisy remarkable, and I think these questions are fair given her prior comments on other topics.

That said, I don't expect much of a response. We already have our answers.
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