» Wheel & Tire Center

» Sponsors
» Sponsors
Go Back   Benzworld.org - Mercedes-Benz Discussion Forum > General Mercedes-Benz Forums > Off-Topic
Register Home Forum Photo Gallery eBay Marketplace Active Topics Blogs Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Please Visit our Site Sponsors

BenzWorld.org is the premier Mercedes-Benz Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-14-2009, 08:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
BenzWorld Elite
 
Jakarta Expat's Avatar
 
Date registered: Aug 2006
Vehicle: PM me to Join the Expat Muslims for Obama Club........
Location: Jakarta, Indonesia
Posts: 15,551
Homeland Security warns of 'right-wing radicals'; 9-page report sent to police...

Federal agency warns of radicals on right

The Department of Homeland Security is warning law enforcement officials about a rise in "rightwing extremist activity," saying the economic recession, the election of America's first black president and the return of a few disgruntled war veterans could swell the ranks of white-power militias.

A footnote attached to the report by the Homeland Security Office of Intelligence and Analysis defines "rightwing extremism in the United States" as including not just racist or hate groups, but also groups that reject federal authority in favor of state or local authority.

"It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single-issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration," the warning says.

The White House has distanced itself from the analysis. When asked for comment on its contents, White House spokesman Nick Shapiro said, "The President is focused not on politics but rather taking the steps necessary to protect all Americans from the threat of violence and terrorism regardless of its origins. He also believes those who serve represent the best of this country, and he will continue to ensure that our veterans receive the respect and benefits they have earned."

The nine-page document was sent to police and sheriff's departments across the United States on April 7 under the headline, "Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment."

It says the federal government "will be working with its state and local partners over the next several months" to gather information on "rightwing extremist activity in the United States."

The joint federal-state activities will have "a particular emphasis" on the causes of "rightwing extremist radicalization."

Homeland Security spokeswoman Sara Kuban said the report is one in an ongoing series of assessments by the department to "facilitate a greater understanding of the phenomenon of violent radicalization in the U.S."

The report, which was first disclosed to the public by nationally syndicated radio host Roger Hedgecock, makes clear that the Homeland Security Department does not have "specific information that domestic rightwing terrorists are currently planning acts of violence."It warns that fringe organizations are gaining recruits, but it provides no numbers.

The report says extremist groups have used President Obama as a recruiting tool.

"Most statements by rightwing extremists have been rhetorical, expressing concerns about the election of the first African American president, but stopping short of calls for violent action," the report says. "In two instances in the run-up to the election, extremists appeared to be in the early planning stages of some threatening activity targeting the Democratic nominee, but law enforcement interceded."

When asked about this passage, Secret Service spokesman Ed Donovan said, "We are concerned about anybody who will try to harm or plan to harm any one of our protectees. We don't have the luxury to focus on one particular group at the exclusion of others."

Congressional debates about immigration and gun control also make extremist groups suspicious and give them a rallying cry, the report says.

"It is unclear if either bill will be passed into law; nonetheless, a correlation may exist between the potential passage of gun control legislation and increased hoarding of ammunition, weapons stockpiling, and paramilitary training activities among rightwing extremists," the report said.

The FBI was quoted Monday as saying that, since November, more than 7 million people have applied for criminal background checks in order to buy weapons.

The Homeland Security report added: "Over the past five years, various rightwing extremists, including militias and white supremacists, have adopted the immigration issue as a call to action, rallying point, and recruiting tool."

The report could signify a change in emphasis for Homeland Security under former Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano. A German magazine quoted Ms. Napolitano as rebranding "terrorism" as "man-made disasters." Since its inception in 2003, the department has focused primarily on radicalization of Muslims and the prospect of homegrown Islamist terrorism.

Ms. Kuban said, however, that the department had published reports on left-wing radicalization as well, though she could not name one.

"These types of reports are published all the time. There have actually been some done on the other end of the spectrum, left-wing," Ms. Kuban said.

A similar headline was used in a report issued in January, Ms. Kuban said, although she could not provide the content of the headline.

Ms. Kuban said she did not know how long the new report had been in the making.

"The purpose of the report is to identify risk. This is nothing unusual," said Ms. Kuban, who added that the Homeland Security Department did this "to prevent another Tim McVeigh from ever happening again."

The Homeland Security assessment specifically says that "rightwing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to exploit their skills and knowledge derived from military training and combat."

Jerry Newberry, director of communications for the Veterans of Foreign Wars, said the vast majority of veterans are patriotic citizens who would not join anti-government militias.

"As far as our military members go, I think that the military is a melting pot of society. So you might get a few, a fractional few, who are going to be attracted by militia groups and other right-wing extremists," he said.

"We have to remember that the people serving in our military are volunteers, they do it because they love their country, and they believe in what our country stands for," he said. "They spent their time in the military defending our Constitution, so the vast majority of them would be repulsed by the hate groups discussed in this report."

The Homeland Security report cited a 2008 FBI report that noted that a small number of returning military veterans from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have joined extremist groups.

The FBI report said that from October 2001 through May 2008 "a minuscule" number of veterans, 203 out of 23,000, had joined groups such as the Ku Klux Klan, Aryan Nations, the National Socialist Movement, the Creativity Movement, the National Alliance and some skinhead groups.

"Although the white supremacist movement is of concern to the FBI, our assessment shows that only a very small number of people with prior military experience may have an affiliation with supremacist groups," FBI spokesman Richard Kolko said Monday when asked about the FBI report.

A 2006 report from the Southern Poverty Law Center, an organization that monitors white supremacists like the Klan, said that white-power groups had an interest in the kind of training the military provides.

Mark Potok, director of the center's intelligence project, said the Homeland Security report "confirms that white supremacists are interested in the military. There is some concern, and there should be, about returning veterans, one need only think of the example of Timothy McVeigh, who was in the first Iraq war."

Mr. Potok added that he was generally pleased with the report.

"Basically, the report tracks fairly closely with what we have been saying for some time now. They mention us a couple of times, though not by name," he said.

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009...cals-on-right/
__________________
09 Touareg

Jakarta Expat is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 

Old 04-14-2009, 08:49 AM   #2 (permalink)
BenzWorld Elite
 
Date registered: Feb 2007
Vehicle: 300SD
Location: Florida, USA
Posts: 3,645
First thing they should do is to can Glenn Beck's show immediately. Freedom of speech is one thing, but this asshole is openly inviting "an armed rebellion against the government"!!!!!! And he has plenty of crazy followers, as we have seen in the case of Pennsylvania shooting recently where three police officers were gunned down by a right wing nut, no doubt inspired by dopes like Glenn Beck and some others.

Imagine what would have happened if someone on a major news network invited the country to an open armed rebellion against the government of G.W. Bush!
p100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2009, 08:52 AM   #3 (permalink)
BenzWorld Elite
 
Jakarta Expat's Avatar
 
Date registered: Aug 2006
Vehicle: PM me to Join the Expat Muslims for Obama Club........
Location: Jakarta, Indonesia
Posts: 15,551
Quote:
Originally Posted by p100 View Post
First thing they should do is to can Glenn Beck's show immediately. Freedom of speech is one thing, but this asshole is openly inviting "an armed rebellion against the government"!!!!!! And he has plenty of crazy followers, as we have seen in the case of Pennsylvania shooting recently where three police officers were gunned down by a right wing nut, no doubt inspired by dopes like Glenn Beck and some others.

Imagine what would have happened if someone on a major news network invited the country to an open armed rebellion against the government of G.W. Bush!


Beck does have a way of working the nuts in to a frenzy, if someone has not caught his 1 hr act on FOX it is not to be missed.........
Jakarta Expat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2009, 08:56 AM   #4 (permalink)
BenzWorld Elite
 
elau's Avatar
 
Date registered: Oct 2002
Location: Maryland
Posts: 3,680
We better keep an eye on Jayhawk too.
__________________
'95 R129
'04 G35.5 BS
elau is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2009, 09:17 AM   #5 (permalink)
Administrator
 
GermanStar's Avatar
 
Date registered: Aug 2002
Vehicle: GermanStar.net
Location: Fountain Hills, AZ
Posts: 27,210
Lifetime Premium Member
Probably not a serious concern: Road Rage Weapon--HELP
__________________
German Star
GermanStar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2009, 10:18 AM   #6 (permalink)
BenzWorld Elite
 
FeelTheLove's Avatar
 
Date registered: Sep 2004
Vehicle: 83 Astral Silver 280 SL
Location: Planet Houston
Posts: 21,280
Beck and Fox are in the process of organizing a right-wing militia. It should be pretty obvious to people where this rhetoric, this new "Fox Nation" spiel, and the increasingly unhinged right wing in America are all trying to take us to. In the very least, we are headed to another Oklahome City-style attack or even worse, it is only a matter of time. People on the Left should be doing what I am doing, which is stock piling guns and ammunition for self-defense. Nazism was the rise of national lunacy. These guys are lunatics. Be prepared.
__________________
Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

-President Barack Obama, 1st Inaugural address
FeelTheLove is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2009, 02:12 PM   #7 (permalink)
BenzWorld Elite
 
Date registered: Jul 2007
Vehicle: 1973 450 SL
Location: Castle Rock, CO
Posts: 3,239
Curious responses. P100 wants to suspend freedom of speech and FTL is stockpiling guns and ammo. Two of our best libs on BWOT doing what they are protesting against in the DHS memo. Maybe those two ought to consider the purpose of the Obama admin publishing that memo in the runup before the "TEA parties."

Remember that libs can't govern without demonizing someone. Last week it was greedy bankers, this week right wing extremists, next week......?
__________________
Charter member of the Vast Rightwing Conspiracy and proud of it.
bottomline1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2009, 02:54 PM   #8 (permalink)
BenzWorld Elite
 
gregs210's Avatar
 
Date registered: Mar 2005
Vehicle: '01-E320 & 02-ST2
Location: Adrift on an island...
Posts: 12,677
Again, the LWNJ contingent always cries for tolerance and free speech, unless they don't like what is said or don't like being tolerant of things they don't agree with. Really more like the negative/positive camera image than a real difference.

Myself I've had trouble understanding how some people can see things so black and white -- and at such polar opposites as well. Most of what I see is shades of gray. 'course when I was younger I did have more of the answers.
gregs210 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2009, 02:57 PM   #9 (permalink)
BenzWorld Elite
 
Date registered: Feb 2007
Vehicle: 300SD
Location: Florida, USA
Posts: 3,645
Freedom of speech and lunacy are not the same. Inciting some whacko to blow up another federal building or massacre federal workers somewhere is exactly what Glenn Beck is doing. Maybe he thinks it is just entertainment (I hope he does). But I assure you there are people out there who take him very seriously.

Funny, I do not see myself as a liberal, as some of my values are strictly conservative, especially my religious views. And I am an independent. However, I do not consider warmongering, militarism, arrogance, and quest to further enrich the upper 1% of the population at the expense of the middle class as being any "conservative" values to brag about.

Last edited by p100 : 04-14-2009 at 03:05 PM.
p100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2009, 03:00 PM   #10 (permalink)
Administrator
 
GermanStar's Avatar
 
Date registered: Aug 2002
Vehicle: GermanStar.net
Location: Fountain Hills, AZ
Posts: 27,210
Lifetime Premium Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by bottomline1 View Post
Curious responses. P100 wants to suspend freedom of speech and FTL is stockpiling guns and ammo. Two of our best libs on BWOT doing what they are protesting against in the DHS memo. Maybe those two ought to consider the purpose of the Obama admin publishing that memo in the runup before the "TEA parties."

Remember that libs can't govern without demonizing someone. Last week it was greedy bankers, this week right wing extremists, next week......?
That was the theme of the entire Bush administration, was it not? I recall Cheney once (probably more than once) suggesting that all American Democrats should be killed.
GermanStar is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Benzworld.org - Mercedes-Benz Discussion Forum > General Mercedes-Benz Forums > Off-Topic




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Topic Author Forum Replies Last Post
Cascadia = Homeland Security Zeitgeist Off-Topic 7 12-12-2008 10:46 AM
Homeland Security up Cripple Creek mcbear Off-Topic 8 05-27-2008 08:20 PM
Homeland Security heckflosse_uk Off-Topic 0 01-28-2006 06:03 PM
Lewis Black grabs Homeland Security by the scruff... blackmercedes Off-Topic 2 10-22-2004 07:38 AM
Bush: No Homeland Security, Lower taxes instead? FeelTheLove Off-Topic 8 10-04-2004 10:51 AM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:46 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0