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Hahaha -- now that's funny.

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I want to hear your take on the quote from Mark.
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^ "Obama '08"

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^ OK, I'll tell you mine. It was very common in His time for people to believe that only the rich and powerful can truly be in God's favor. Jesus spent an inordinate amount of time emphasising that the church was for everyone, not just the rich. You are not judged by the amount of your good works. As a Christian, these things are expected of you without reward. The rich guy in Mark was expecting a payback and Jesus said, oh yeah, well try giving up everything! Obviously the rich guy valued his money more than his salvation. People love to twist this passage around. I prefer a very simple approach to it.

You left out verse 31 which restates Jesus message of the right of all men to approach God equally regardless of status.

Mark 10:31 (New International Version)
"But many who are first will be last, and the last first."
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A little girl is standing on top of a cliff, looking down at the sea and crying her eyes out. A priest approaches and says, "My child, why are you so upset?"

The little girl turns to him and says, "My mummy and daddy were in their car -- and it just rolled over the cliff and smashed on the rocks down there."

The priest slowly looks around him while unbuttoning his cassock and says, "It's just not your day, is it?"

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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^ I don't understand. I thought you were for the rights of the sexually perverse.
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On a serious note. My limited success comes from very hard work with as many ups as downs. The strength to keep going comes from God. I ask him for strength and he provides. The rest is up to me.
The problem here, as I've said elsewhere, is that we haven't lived in a society that rewards hard work for years and years. We penalize the traditional paths to success and mock those who follow it, while idolizing and heaping riches upon "mavericks" who consume any available resource in order to make a bigger, faster, and more flamboyant "bang". When they inevitably, invariably fail, we pick them up and dust them off and get them a handjob and a yacht and send them on their way with a briefcase full of $1,000 bills.

I for one believe you cannot separate a capitalist society from its meritocratic roots. This nation wasn't founded on the principle that a select group of people get to succeed while everyone else is repressed - that's exactly the type of environment we left in England.

There have to be penalties - not legal, but 'law of the jungle' type penalties - for failure. The more catastrophic the failure, the bigger the penalty should be. The concept of risk/reward is gone. It's all reward, risk-free. The cure for risk isn't to get the taxpayer to shoulder it, but to study the market carefully and understand it better.

Instead, we have an elitist-socialist model of sorts where if you can just get big enough to make a justifiable case to the average dipshit that if you fail, everyone goes with you, and you can pretty much make whatever gamble you want.

Seems like the easiest way to do this is to promise people immense returns on immense investments that are risk-free, insured, and AAA-rated. When it all falls apart, fuck it, you're rich, so who cares. Nobody seems to give a shit about the sustainability of a company or a business model anymore. They're ripping through immense, respected corporate brands that took hundreds of years to build up, using them like condoms with which they can fuck us in new ways, disease-free.

Hard work and success used to be admirable in this nation. Now it's ridiculed. It didn't happen in the past 4 months, by the way. It happened over the past 8 years. Yep, you're a chump, living in a corporate socialist state, an indentured servant to the upper class, and if you must know, its your Republican party that is pointing at you, laughing. All the way to their yachts.

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[B] Among Democrats, 36% approved of Bush's job performance in April 2001; that compares with a 27% job approval rating for Obama among Republicans today.
Republicans don't like black people.

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^ Sorry, can't take claim for your cornhole buddy Frank. Typical. Lefties view success as failure and failure as success. You also need to look at the honest data that shows charitable distribution. Not everyone is a greedy money grubbing freak. I need a pool, new cars, and a bunch of other cool stuff. I don't buy it because of my contributions. It's called priorities.
What majority was Frank in?
What bill did Frank sponsor?
What bill did Frank block?
What regulations did Frank stop from being enforces?

Oh yeah, none. He just provides an excuse for the right. Guess what. It only works for the Shrinking28.

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Like you!

How are you handling these times?
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What majority was Frank in?
What bill did Frank sponsor?
What bill did Frank block?
What regulations did Frank stop from being enforces?

Oh yeah, none. He just provides an excuse for the right. Guess what. It only works for the Shrinking28.
You're being entirely too Frank!

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