I'm also taller than Rush.
I do understand that you are clumping all of the splinter groups together but my point is, and the point of the thread has been, that as a collapsing party, WHAT SPLINTER WILL EMERGE? So my question, which splinter do you refer when you say Conservative is germane because, frankly what the article speaks to is NeoConservative yet you suggest conservative and there is a confusion.
If you ask Ed or GS or Q to define Conservative you will get a much different answer than from the NeoCon contingent on this board [those who blindly supported bush and all he did]. And you will get a different answer from those who are trying to distance themselves from Bush and his many mistakes.
So it is germane to ask the question Which brand of Conservative do you think is collapsing and which do you think is going to grow out of this. It is NOT going to be a "all parties kiss and make up" exercise.
And the difference in Rush and me...I ask a bunch of questions to try and get the perspective of others. It appears many get defensive when I ask these questions as it sometimes makes them think or has them draw a line in the sand. But then again that is what debate is about.
So to modify my question, While you clump all the splinter groups of the RNC together for conversational sake, when the subject of collapse of the Conservative Movement is in play, which splinter do you think best represents that Conservative Movement and which splinter do you think will grow out of this collapse.
Actually no it is not Germane McBear.
Please Read post 30 from me.
My whole assertion is that Conservative Candidates (read GOP candidates) have in the past generation or two, been much more successful in raising money than the Liberal Candidates (read DNC Candidates).
You bringing in an assertion that the whole conservative movement has failed and is rudderless is a straw man.
This is what happens after parties lose elections. There is much knashing of teeth and renting of clothes, and then things pick up. The Democrats have done this every time a national election was lost. The Republicans are no different.
The real difference though is that the Republicans are better suited to pick up their pieces quicker because of the advantage in fundraising they enjoy.
Couple that with people's innate migration to the conservative message during times of high volatility in this country, and you have the recipe for a dramatic resurgence of a TRUE conservative.
The "X" factor comes in to play inasmuch as we do not yet know which faction will gain power in the RNC.
Here is to hoping that it will be a Fiscal, Small Government Conservative.
By the way, the "Bitter, Gun Toting, Religion Clinging" conservatives will support ANY conservative candidate who can assure them that Government will not intrude into their lives. He or she can be pro choice, neutral on Gays in the military, and tell everyone that he likes to wear women's or men's underwear. So long as they are willing to back up their words with action, that candidate will be swept into office like never before.
Mark my words, you are going to see the next Presidential Nominee for the RNC be Mark Sanford.