Stupid people should not vote - Page 2 - Mercedes-Benz Forum

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #11 of 32 (permalink) Old 03-29-2009, 08:05 PM
BenzWorld Elite
 
Stuantle's Avatar
 
Date registered: Jan 2008
Posts: 5,871
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by drewprof View Post
Do you see "true socialism" on the horizon?
As you well know, we have the three branches to make sure there are checks and balances. Since we are in panic mode and things are being rammed through without being read, I believe we may be on a course that may be tough to contain without intervention of the odd third branch. I don't want to see things get to the "ugly" stage since both parties are so polarized. A 1964 style division of the country would not be a good thing to repeat. Not sure if you were a participant back then. I was and it truly sucked. Exciting when it happened, sad when looked back upon.
Stuantle is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #12 of 32 (permalink) Old 03-29-2009, 08:08 PM
DP
Moderator
 
DP's Avatar
 
Date registered: Aug 2002
Vehicle: 190E, 400E, SLK350
Location: Chesapeak Bay
Posts: 64,125
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Quoted: 991 Post(s)
Lifetime Premium Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuantle View Post
As you well know, we have the three branches to make sure there are checks and balances. Since we are in panic mode and things are being rammed through without being read, I believe we may be on a course that may be tough to contain without intervention of the odd third branch. I don't want to see things get to the "ugly" stage since both parties are so polarized. A 1964 style division of the country would not be a good thing to repeat. Not sure if you were a participant back then. I was and it truly sucked. Exciting when it happened, sad when looked back upon.
Hmm, let me remind you of this:
Bush: ex baseball team owner
Obama: ex professor, Constitutional Law
DP is offline  
post #13 of 32 (permalink) Old 03-29-2009, 08:28 PM
BenzWorld Elite
 
mcbear's Avatar
 
Date registered: Apr 2004
Vehicle: E500Es
Location: The BlueGrass State
Posts: 29,579
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuantle View Post
As you well know, we have the three branches to make sure there are checks and balances. Since we are in panic mode and things are being rammed through without being read, I believe we may be on a course that may be tough to contain without intervention of the odd third branch. I don't want to see things get to the "ugly" stage since both parties are so polarized. A 1964 style division of the country would not be a good thing to repeat. Not sure if you were a participant back then. I was and it truly sucked. Exciting when it happened, sad when looked back upon.
I think, looking back the changes triggered by the rift in that era were some of the best this country has ever had. Lot's of changes in a very short period of time.

Yes there were problems but a lot of things happened that would not have happened if that rift had not been opened.

McBear,
Kentucky

Being smart is knowing the difference, in a sticky situation between a well delivered anecdote and a well delivered antidote - bear.
mcbear is offline  
post #14 of 32 (permalink) Old 03-29-2009, 08:32 PM
BenzWorld Elite
 
Stuantle's Avatar
 
Date registered: Jan 2008
Posts: 5,871
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by drewprof View Post
Hmm, let me remind you of this:
Bush: ex baseball team owner
Obama: ex professor, Constitutional Law
Since you are a "prof", do I really need to remind you of the old adage "those who can, do"? I won't since that would be disrespectful since I don't know your CV. Over the years I have been approached unsolicited by two Universities (yes, well accredited) to teach full time and respectfully turned them down due to the company I would have to keep.

Bush was a Gov. Barry was a Community Organizer (whatever that was) and a documented lame Senator who rarely had the guts to take a position on an issue or actually show up to vote on it.

I see him just as indefensable as you see GW.
Stuantle is offline  
post #15 of 32 (permalink) Old 03-29-2009, 08:34 PM
BenzWorld Elite
 
Stuantle's Avatar
 
Date registered: Jan 2008
Posts: 5,871
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcbear View Post
I think, looking back the changes triggered by the rift in that era were some of the best this country has ever had. Lot's of changes in a very short period of time.

Yes there were problems but a lot of things happened that would not have happened if that rift had not been opened.
When I looked back I saw us coming too close to another civil war. We were divided too far apart.
Stuantle is offline  
post #16 of 32 (permalink) Old 03-29-2009, 08:34 PM
BenzWorld Elite
 
mcbear's Avatar
 
Date registered: Apr 2004
Vehicle: E500Es
Location: The BlueGrass State
Posts: 29,579
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuantle View Post
Since you are a "prof", do I really need to remind you of the old adage "those who can, do"? I won't since that would be disrespectful since I don't know your CV. Over the years I have been approached unsolicited by two Universities (yes, well accredited) to teach full time and respectfully turned them down due to the company I would have to keep.

Bush was a Gov. Barry was a Community Organizer (whatever that was) and a documented lame Senator who rarely had the guts to take a position on an issue or actually show up to vote on it.

I see him just as indefensable as you see GW.
Those who use the adage "those who can, do..." usually don't have the skillset to do both. Those who teach at the university level usually do. At least that has been my experience over the last 35 years.

McBear,
Kentucky

Being smart is knowing the difference, in a sticky situation between a well delivered anecdote and a well delivered antidote - bear.
mcbear is offline  
post #17 of 32 (permalink) Old 03-29-2009, 08:39 PM
DP
Moderator
 
DP's Avatar
 
Date registered: Aug 2002
Vehicle: 190E, 400E, SLK350
Location: Chesapeak Bay
Posts: 64,125
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Quoted: 991 Post(s)
Lifetime Premium Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuantle View Post
Since you are a "prof", do I really need to remind you of the old adage "those who can, do"? I won't since that would be disrespectful since I don't know your CV. Over the years I have been approached unsolicited by two Universities (yes, well accredited) to teach full time and respectfully turned them down due to the company I would have to keep.

Bush was a Gov. Barry was a Community Organizer (whatever that was) and a documented lame Senator who rarely had the guts to take a position on an issue or actually show up to vote on it.

I see him just as indefensable as you see GW.
Old adage? Maybe in your world. Where I am, we not only must have over 15 years of hard core experience at all levels (technical, managerial, human resources, project planning.. etc) we must also keep working in the industry in one capacity or another. If not, then I will have to dedicate my time with research and begging for grants (forget posting in BWOT too).
What company were you so adamant at not associating your highness with? Were they too liberal for your taste? Was it the sandals with socks?
DP is offline  
post #18 of 32 (permalink) Old 03-29-2009, 08:42 PM
BenzWorld Elite
 
mcbear's Avatar
 
Date registered: Apr 2004
Vehicle: E500Es
Location: The BlueGrass State
Posts: 29,579
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuantle View Post
When I looked back I saw us coming too close to another civil war. We were divided too far apart.
There were only a few times that it got that weird, Detroit, Watts, Newark, but those were exceptions, not the rule.

I look at the number of opportunities that exist now that did not in 1963 and it is amazing. There have been down sides but the up sides make up for them.

I sometimes think you need to be near the brink to regain focus. We lost focus on our fiscal responsibilities as a nation, first in 1928 and again in 1980. It took a serious failure to gain that focus in 1929. It took a serious failure in 2008 to gain that focus again.

Same issue with folks without flood insurance in Fargo. Most had never experienced a 100 Year flood so only 800 have flood insurance. Bet they will have it next time. Lessons learned from the brink.

McBear,
Kentucky

Being smart is knowing the difference, in a sticky situation between a well delivered anecdote and a well delivered antidote - bear.
mcbear is offline  
post #19 of 32 (permalink) Old 03-29-2009, 08:53 PM
BenzWorld Elite
 
Stuantle's Avatar
 
Date registered: Jan 2008
Posts: 5,871
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcbear View Post
Those who use the adage "those who can, do..." usually don't have the skillset to do both. Those who teach at the university level usually do. At least that has been my experience over the last 35 years.
Correct me if I am worng. Aren't you doing time at NYU? One of my degrees is from GW just down from the White House and I had a few profs that I know couldn't make it in the real competitive world. Don't even get me started on the TA's that had zero real life experience. There is a huge difference between teaching theory and practical application. Theory gives you the qualifications to teach. Practical application gets you a career. I have put more "golden boys" from prestigious alma maters through multi year rotational programs to give them the practical application lessons they missed in school. All agreed after many years that they learned more in two years of work than they did in all their years in college. On the other hand I just pawned a youngster off on another group who just didn't get it. A MSME from USC still didn't work. Education is a waste if you can't apply it.

Even if the the profs are misguided, I expect quality at the level you and I have paid for, however, many people get into their positions under false pretenses. Others just go down a bad road like the fake Indian.

It takes all kinds to fill the freeways.
Stuantle is offline  
post #20 of 32 (permalink) Old 03-29-2009, 08:55 PM
BenzWorld Elite
 
Stuantle's Avatar
 
Date registered: Jan 2008
Posts: 5,871
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcbear View Post
There were only a few times that it got that weird, Detroit, Watts, Newark, but those were exceptions, not the rule.

I look at the number of opportunities that exist now that did not in 1963 and it is amazing. There have been down sides but the up sides make up for them.

I sometimes think you need to be near the brink to regain focus. We lost focus on our fiscal responsibilities as a nation, first in 1928 and again in 1980. It took a serious failure to gain that focus in 1929. It took a serious failure in 2008 to gain that focus again.

Same issue with folks without flood insurance in Fargo. Most had never experienced a 100 Year flood so only 800 have flood insurance. Bet they will have it next time. Lessons learned from the brink.
True. We see it the same way. I saw riots and blood in person.
Stuantle is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Mercedes-Benz Forum > General Mercedes-Benz Forums > Off-Topic

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Mercedes-Benz Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in











  • Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
     
    Thread Tools
    Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
    Email this Page Email this Page
    Display Modes
    Linear Mode Linear Mode



    Similar Threads
    Topic Author Forum Replies Last Post
    Why do so few people vote in the U.S.? Teutone Off-Topic 34 11-07-2006 05:29 PM
    Stupid people......... zeaq MB Safety & Testimonials 33 01-20-2006 01:42 AM
    Do you think some people are simply stupid ? Demon_possessed Off-Topic 30 12-19-2005 04:24 AM
    OT - Poll - Vote for President! Let's see how SLK people are going to vote this election! NJ CoolBreeze R170 SLK-Class 32 11-02-2004 11:40 AM
    i will buy what the people vote on!!!please vote now!!! zan The Discount Tire Direct Tire, Wheel, Brake & Suspension 3 03-18-2004 11:54 AM

    Posting Rules  
    You may post new threads
    You may post replies
    You may not post attachments
    You may not edit your posts

    BB code is On
    Smilies are On
    [IMG] code is On
    HTML code is Off
    Trackbacks are On
    Pingbacks are On
    Refbacks are On

     

    Title goes here

    close
    video goes here
    description goes here. Read Full Story
    For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome