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Clinton had no business bombing Kosovo, just as Bush had no business to invade Iraq. Make all excuses you want.
How about Obama and the poor poppy farmers in Afghanistan ?
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How about Obama and the poor poppy farmers in Afghanistan ?
Even though there was some legitimacy behind invasion of Afghanistan by Bush, it was a very foolish step and I cannot say anything good about Obama escalating that war.

I see war as an absolute evil that one should resort to only after all other options have been exhausted. As it is, it was the first and only "option" considered by Bush.

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Even though there was some legitimacy behind invasion of Afghanistan by Bush, it was a very foolish step and I cannot say anything good about Obama escalating that war.

I see war as an absolute evil that one should resort to only after all other options have been exhausted. As it is, it was the first and only "option" considered by Bush.
right but the taliban wasn't all about talking.. a do recall some heads rolling.. is that the approach?

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Clinton had no business bombing Kosovo, just as Bush had no business to invade Iraq. Make all excuses you want.
no business stopping serbia's ethnic cleansing? wow



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... no business stopping serbia's ethnic cleansing? wow
Prime directive.
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Serbia was the bully and the intervention was reasonable.
I would say too slow in responding the their agresive atacks.
Now it is a better place too live.
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Communique regarding the pogrom in Kosovo and Metohija on March 17, 2004 and 10-years of the NATO bombing
16. March 2009 - 16:25

This March 17 is five years since the pogrom committed upon the Serbian orthodox people and the orthodox sanctuaries in Kosovo and Metohija. This pogrom of the Albanian terrorists drove out new more than four thousand Serbs from their ages-long hearts, destroyed hundreds of homes, demolished new over thirty churches, and because of it also new innocent victims were fallen. All this happened in thepresence of international civilian and military forces, the UNMIK and the KFOR. Until today no one has been accused for this violence and public crime. And all that is just a continuation of the NATO bombing and the unequalled pogrom, violence, murders and destruction of hundreds of sanctuaries in 1999 in Kosovo and Metohija.Up to date no one was held responsible for that violence andpublic crime. And all that is actually a continuation of NATO bombing and unprecedented prosecution, violence, murders and destruction of hundreds of churches in 1999. In Kosovo and Metohija. From all prosecuted and displaced it is a small number of those who could return to their burnt homes and manors in the last ten years; vast majority of destroyed churches and monasteries remains in ruins or everytrace of their existence is missing. That is what the protection of human rights looks like and "reaching standard" which international community has promised before the final solution of the Kosovo issue! In the meantime, a certain number of states, contrary to UN decisions (decision of the Security Council 1244), has accepted from the Albanians unilaterally proclaimed Kosovo independence. In that way, the convicted crimes and violence not only remained unpunished, but were even awarded with mutilation of one internationally recognised state, member of the UN, contrary to all international conventions and guaranteed by the state and national law. This act certainly confirms the veracity of statement made by former American ambassador Mr. Montgomery, that the NATO and US bombing itself over Serbia and Montenegro, was conducted with a purpose of giving Kosovo its independence. "Protection of human rights" followed by the new ethnic cleaning and cultural destruction of Serbian people, obviously represented an excuse for geopolitical accomplishments of modern powerful states. This was also confirmed by the latest draconian verdicts in Hague Tribunal for the people who defended their country and its unity, parallel to the liberating verdicts for terrorist Haradinaj, F. Ejupi, and others. It is difficult, or impossible to put in a common sense the right for the fight against terrorism and protection of the US ,,national interests" and other states in far Afghanistan and Iraq, murders of hundreds of thousands innocent people from there and cultural destruction of that ancient people,and by doing so, not only deprive people from the right to their country, but judge them as criminals.

Hence, deeply convinced that historical course of things will, as many times in past, confirm also this time that "God is not in force, but in justice", we call the faithful to take part also this March 17 in a memorial service for the suffered from the terrorist pogrom in Kosovo and Metohija. The memorial service will be held at the Cathedral Church in Belgrade on Wednesday at noon. On the occasion of 10 years of the NATO bombing of our country, a memorial service for the suffered will be held in all churches countrywide,along with ringing of bells at 18:45,when on March 24, 1999 the first bomb on our country was fallen. The memorial service will be held in Belgrade at St Marko's church at 17h. After it there is a commemorative academy at the Sava Center at 20h.

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Serbia was the bully and the intervention was reasonable.
I would say too slow in responding the their agresive atacks.
Now it is a better place too live.
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Is life in the area better today than 10 years ago ?
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Well, serbs are not killing at random for ethnic clensing so it must be better.
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Is life in the area better today than 10 years ago ?
Depends on who you are, if you were one of the rullin establishment during th Milosevic era, yes because you have embezzled so much money that you can now buy what used to be giant companies formerly owned by the state and become a milionaire over night. While the brave ppl who fought in the war barelly survive day by day. I say BRAVE because lets face it, the whole might of NATO and US army, navy and airforce have attacked a country with roughly 8 milion ppl (think about it).

I will never understand why America and NATO (superpowers) find it justifyable to intrude into another sovereign nations bussines, when 97% of americans and europeans dont even know where Serbia is.

Just to explain to you the story about Kosovo, its the cradle of Serbian nation. Over time more and more ppl from Albania have come to live there. we accepted them with open arms (sure why not its a free country). The problem started when Albanians (muslims) started having families of 10 kids and more, and over time they became majority in the Kosovo province. So they decided because of that they claim the right to that piece of land, and to make their own country?!??!!??!?!?

To make some of you understand it would be like, if mexicans became (dont know if they already are) majority group in california, and in a few years they start proclaiming it as a new state of Mexico!! what would you do? Send in the national guard? if so shootings would start and you would see the same thing happening as you saw in Serbia, right?

The only trouble is that America has better PR managment skills then Serbia has, and becaouse of that Public oppinion of the world would be on the side of the state.

Think about Ireland and Northern Ireland, exactly the same thing as Kososvo, with one slight difference........................................ ........The main actor in that movie is Great Britain.... heavent herd of London being bombarded lately.

In some other post, ive read that Serbia was called a bully?!?!? Plz dont say that, The guy who posted does not know the history of this region and my country. American history is 250 years old ours is thousands of years old. Imagine what had taken place in those centurie, there is a deeply seeded hatred between Croatia, Bosnia,Serbia, Albania.
Coming back to Serbia being a bully, how can you say that? The biggest Superpower in the world had attacked a country of 8 milion ppl!?!?!?!

Coming a bit of course here, sry

Life is not better, this part of the world (Balkans) is not made for democracy, in USA and western world it works but here NOOOOOOOOO, and i dont get why Democratic countries are so sure they know, what is better for some other country?
Here democracy means: Coruption, Appearance of a lawfull state, consolidation of all the societys assets in the hands of the few.

The only type of government here that works is the type Josip Broz TITO has made (Past)
The new kind of government that would work would be the Chineese type.

P.S I did not want to offend anybody with this text, and if i did i deeply apologize.
Please excuse the spelling English is my third language.


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